Earlier quoted context omitted.
i don’t think we need to respect these elite multi millionaires for not becoming even grander multi millionaires / billionaires
is having money morally wrong?
Depends on how you get it
OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
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#212It shouldn't be legal and maybe it isn't, but all schemes like this are, when you get down to it, ultimately about suppressing potential or actual evidence of serious, possibly criminal misconduct, so I don't think they are going to let the illegality get them all upset while they are having fun.
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#213deleting my OpenAI account.
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#214So part of their compensation for working is equity, and when they leave thay have to sign an additional agreement in order to keep their previously earned compensation? How is this legal? Mine as well tell them they have to give all their money back too.
What's the consideration for this contract?
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#215Extra respect is due to Jan Leike, then: https://x.com/janleike/status/1791498174659715494
Why is extra respect due? That post just says he is leaving, there's no criticism.
I think you have to either log in to X or use a frontend if you want to read the entire thread. Here's a frontend
https://nitter.poast.org/janleike/status/1791498174659715494
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or current X employee.
And my comment is flagged, How did I forget which site I am on YC, that's sama's home turf.
Users correctly flagged your comment because it blatantly broke HN's guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#217It probably would be better to switch the link from the X post to the Vox article [0]. From the article: “““ It turns out there’s a very clear reason for [why no one who had once worked at OpenAI was talking]. I have seen the extremely restrictive off-boarding agreement that contains nondisclosure and non-disparagement provisions former OpenAI employees are subject to. It forbids them, for the rest of their lives, fr…
(Parent comment was posted to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40394778 before we merged that thread hither.)
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, someone at corporate has interpreted this statement as criticism. Please give back all equity, or an amount equivalent to its current value.
Like a fast food employee would have equity in the company. Please, let's at least be sensible in our internet ranting.
What about a franchisee?
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#219The only way I can see this being a valid contract is if the equity grant that they get to keep is a new grant offered the time of signing the exit contract. Any vested equity given as compensation for work could not then be offered again as consideration for signing a new agreement. Maybe the agreement is "we will accelerate vesting of your unvested equity if you sign this new agreement"? If that's the case then it…
My initial reaction was "Hold up - your RSUs vest, you sell the shares and pocket the cash, you quit OpenAI, a few years later you disparage them, and then when? They somehow try and claw back the equity? How? At what value? There's no way this can work." Then I remembered that OpenAI "equity" doesn't take the form of an RSU or option or anything else that can be converted into an actual share ever. What they call "e…
Their profit is capped at $1T, which is amount no company has ever achieved.
Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?
#220It probably would be better to switch the link from the X post to the Vox article [0]. From the article: “““ It turns out there’s a very clear reason for [why no one who had once worked at OpenAI was talking]. I have seen the extremely restrictive off-boarding agreement that contains nondisclosure and non-disparagement provisions former OpenAI employees are subject to. It forbids them, for the rest of their lives, fr…
(Parent comment was posted to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40394778 before we merged that thread hither.)
Thank you, @dang! On top of things, as usual.