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Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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The gold rush for data is wild. Private companies selling us out. - Slack - Discord - Reddit - Stackoverflow Let’s just hope this data gold rush dies out faster than the web3 craze before OpenAI reaches critical mass and gets access to government server farms. Alphabet boys have server farms of domestic and foreign surveillance and intelligence. Exabytes of data [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Cente…

I mean slack is sold off. Founders made money. For all intents and purposes it's dead software.

I actually think Slack is great and it has improved over the last 12 months.

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That probably speaks more to the overall culture of the company Yep. Fun fact, my last workplace had a fairly nontoxic Slack... but there was a whole second Slack dedicated to bitching and shitposting where the bosses weren't invited. Humans gonna human.

Was not limited to just the bosses who were not invited. If you weren’t in the cool club you also did not get an invite. A very inclusive company on paper that was very exclusionary behind the scenes.

What happened when someone from the cool club got promoted and became a boss?

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

how does the training procedure smooth the garbage out?

Through regularization techniques, data augmentation, loss functions, and gradient optimization, ensuring the model focuses on meaningful patterns and reduces overfitting to noise.

It’s not obvious how any of those would do anything but better approximate the average of a noisy dataset. RLHF might help, but only if it’s not done by idiots.

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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post #173

It seems like we've entered an era where not only are you paying for software with money, you're also paying for software with your data, privacy implications be damned. I would love to see people picking f/oss instead.

Problems with f/oss for business applications:

1. Great UX folks almost never work for free. So the UX of nearly all OSS is awful.

2. Great software comes from a close connection to users. When your software is an OS kernel that works just fine for programmers, but how many OSS folks want to spend their free time on zoom talking to hundreds of businesses and understanding their needs, so they can give them free software?

See also: year of Linux desktop

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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post #61

> We offer Customers a choice around these practices. If you want to exclude your Customer Data from helping train Slack global models, you can opt out. If you opt out, Customer Data on your workspace will only be used to improve the experience on your own workspace and you will still enjoy all of the benefits of our globally trained AI/ML models without contributing to the underlying models. Why would anyone not opt…

> We offer Customers a choice around these practices. I remembered the joke from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, maybe they will have a small hint in a very inconspicuous place, like inserting this into the user agreement on page 300 or so.

But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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post #115

The gold rush for data is wild. Private companies selling us out. - Slack - Discord - Reddit - Stackoverflow Let’s just hope this data gold rush dies out faster than the web3 craze before OpenAI reaches critical mass and gets access to government server farms. Alphabet boys have server farms of domestic and foreign surveillance and intelligence. Exabytes of data [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Cente…

Don't forget Dropbox: https://twitter.com/Werner/status/1734890651378975007

That thread was a mischaracterization and a misunderstanding. The toggle simply exposed UI entry points to AI integrations that users could then opt to use, with consent.

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

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post #115

The gold rush for data is wild. Private companies selling us out. - Slack - Discord - Reddit - Stackoverflow Let’s just hope this data gold rush dies out faster than the web3 craze before OpenAI reaches critical mass and gets access to government server farms. Alphabet boys have server farms of domestic and foreign surveillance and intelligence. Exabytes of data [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Cente…

Meh, tbh I think these guys live in a bit of a dream world about how much their data is worth. While investors and corporate partners will rush to these companies for their data, I'm not really convinced random internet conversations are going to push anything forward but let them sell shovels. Most of the miners always go broke.

Re: Slack AI Training with Customer Data

#220

How can anyone in their right mind think building AI for emoji selection is a remotely good use of time...

it's just a justification for collecting tokens

Tokens (outside of a few trillion ) are worthless imo, I think OAI has pushed that limit, let the others chase them with billions into the ocean of useless conversational data and drown.
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