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Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Is there any danger of people flying in planes during this time? Will there be any radiation exposure?

It's a magnetic field, no? Is there any particular radioactive component? I'd be more worried about the acute effect on the plane's electronics, the whole point is they disrupt electrical systems.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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This paper estimates Kp = (8.4±0.8). Because the scale is logarithmic, the difference between 8 and 9.2 is obviously quite extreme. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/asna.2022007...

I'm sure there are articles discussing the point, but I wonder why citizen-facing scales don't use more linear representations for things.

Because citizens aren't expected to need to know the scale. They are only expected to follow the guidance their governments issue.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Should I disconnect my computer from the grid at this point? (I'm using a UPS with built-in power surge protection but I'd rather not test it in prod.)

If you really want to be safe: put it in a cardboard box, wrap the cardboard box in air tight aluminum foil or a metal container, and then put the whole thing in another cardboard box to prevent any grounds or shorts.

That seems pretty excessive, IIRC if there's not a really long linear length of wire involved (e.g. power lines) then things are probably fine.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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I've got an assortment of backpacking/camping water filters, but don't live especially near a water source, so my days would revolve around walks to the nearest creek. (2 km away) A cargo bike would help a lot there. If the municipal water is still functional but non-potable, a LifeStraw Max gets you effectively unlimited water on-demand for most sources of contamination.

You could collect rainwater, but realistically water outages are usually not "the taps are dry", but rather "the water treatment plant failed so we can't guarantee the water is safe to drink."

That seems to be pretty optimistic with respect to geography.

Consider: "The pumps aren't working and there's nothing left up inside the local water-tower."

Then you'd have to travel to get any appreciable amount of water before even starting to filter it.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Best way to prep is strong community connections around you. Community is resiliency.

LOL we saw how that played out with COVID. 1/2 your "community" is going to deny the disaster and deliberately worsen it. 1/2 (with some overlap) is going to go from grocery store to grocery store buying all the necessities to resell them later. EDIT: Wow, I know HN wears rose-colored glasses when looking at the past, but come on, people. We didn't hallucinate the antimaskers, antivaxxers, and thousands of protestors…

I don't think anyone's denying that American society doesn't create strong communities, I think they are advocating to work towards creating one around you.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Implications! - Power systems: Possible widespread voltage control problems and some protective systems will mistakenly trip out key assets from the grid. - Spacecraft operations: May experience surface charging and tracking problems, corrections may be needed for orientation problems. - Other systems: Induced pipeline currents affect preventive measures, HF radio propagation sporadic, satellite navigation degraded f…

Yeah, there's usually no ill effects reported even from pretty strong ones, but lights in Stockholm, Sweden (which is itself pretty far south for an aurora in the first place) were reported to flicker earlier this evening. That's pretty remarkable.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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Fascinating, if anyone has info on other grids that share these types of alerts, pease link!

PJM is still at "warning". No alerts or actions are listed. If problems were expected, there would be alerts and preparatory actions. PJM mentions that they turn off guest access if the site overloads. So please don't over-use this link.

Minor update: the warning has been extended another 16 hours, but downgraded from K8 to K7.

Re: Coronal mass ejection impact imminent, two more earth-directed CMEs

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The genius move I heard of was to throw a few 5-gal jugs of water up in your attic (!!!). It's relatively shelf-stable, standardized size, and "in case of emergency" you can even use it as a gravity-flowed spout to fill smaller containers below. I've taken to trying to have a minimal set of 4 one liter steel water bottles hung in the closet (grab + go) all the time. So convenient to be able to "just grab some water"…

If it's kept in plastic containers, it's probably only good for a year or so before enough stuff leaches into the water that it'll last off and funky. The time period decreases significantly if your attic gets hot (like a lot of them do).

In that kind of emergency, I'd probably be satisfied with safe-but-distasteful as opposed to unavailable.
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