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When do we stop finding new music?

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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

Since I'm not seeing anybody mention it yet but it's one of my favorite ways to find new genres, I'd highly recommend everyone check out everynoise.com because they seem to have scraped Spotify's genres (you'll need Spotify to listen to more than 30 second samples, but probably still useful even if you don't use Spotify). The number of genres they have listed in the THOUSANDS, and I guarantee they will have something you've never heard of, but it's a great rabbit hole to go down when looking for new music. If you like a genre, they'll already have multiple playlists for it, and if you like a particular artist, they'll have those too. I am not affiliated with the website, but try to turn everyone I know onto it because there's just so much out there to discover that I wouldn't have otherwise.

(everynoise.com developer, if you're reading this, I love you <3)

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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The old school way still works too: 5. Listen to the radio.

Nah, most people only have consolidated radio stations, they play national playlists of soup. If you still have independent stations which pay actual radio DJs empowered to craft their sets, cherish them.

Three D Radio, local independent radio station in Adelaide, South Australia is the source of most of my discovery.

They play a lot of styles, and there's a lot I don't like, but there's a very high chance you haven't heard it before - and that counts for something.

https://www.threedradio.com

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

I see this in https://everynoise.com/#updates

> 2024-01-05 status update: With my layoff from Spotify on 2023-12-04, I lost the internal data-access required for ongoing updates to many parts of this site. Most of this, as a result, is now a static snapshot of what, for now, will be the final state from the site's 10-year history and evolution, hosted on my own server. Some pieces may get disabled and reenabled over time, and some that only made sense with current data may never return. But we'll see.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

Strongly disagree with your take on albums. I'm a music lover, spotify wrapped always puts me in the top 5% for most artists. I never search by album, always song, and if it's great I'll click in to check to see if the album is to my taste.

I have discovered so much music on spotify. I'm not going to listen to a whole album to see if I like a new artist, lol.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

I think we have the same taste from the 2000s on. If you had to recommend one artist\track I probably haven't heard of yet, which would it be?

I'm not who you're asking, but this is a relatively recent release that put me on my ass:

The song Party Dozen by the band Party Dozen.

Follow rabbit hole from there.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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I still don't get why after all this investment in AI Spotify can't just give me a seamless never ending stream of music. I need to keep selecting from playlists they generate which often repeat some songs extremely often. All I want from a Spotify interface is play/pause/skip/like/dislike. Then use those to continuously adapt the selection of the next song. If you want to be fancy add a warmup mode where you ask me some questions or show me some songs to like/dislike for that particular moment so that the initial selections start warmer. If I had that I could explore a lot more music. Because I don't I end up just listening to the greatest hits of things I remember and then that further pollutes the dataset to the point where my musical tastes must stagnate.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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I don't know about the Spotify analysis here, but certainly cosign RateYourMusic, which I just learned about this last weekend and am now a little bit obsessed with. It's like IMDB crossed with Pinboard, and the list of new stuff I have to listen to now is long and intricately connected to what I already listen to. It's a pretty amazing resource, even if everyone there is wrong about Uncle Tupelo's "Anodyne".

I pay for it because it's dirt cheap and you get track ratings. If I discover an artist I use RYM to get the best 3 songs of their best 3 albums on YouTube. if I still like the band after that I'll buy the highest rated album.

I used it for like 5 minutes before paying for it, it's obviously great, and the "pro" upgrade has the funniest best feature ever (exclude ratings by the age of the rater).

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Well I'm in my 50s, and I mostly stopped finding new music when record labels, streaming, and social media destroyed the prospects for people who would otherwise make that new music for me to find. New stuff still arrives (you're not going to predict that me-at-15-loving-Megadeth will much later also love Billie Eilish or Gin Wigmore or Mirel Wagner or ...) but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by abou…

I'm closing in on 50s, and what I miss the most out of the music I grew up with are actual cohesive albums that work as a single artistic unit. I think the 70s were the golden age of albums, and then slowly we moved towards the world of albums being just random collections of tracks, with one or two good ones and the rest "filler." Now, do many modern musicians even bother to release albums anymore? Seems like it's j…

You might really like the new Cindy Lee double album[1]. The artist decided to only release it as one long video on Youtube instead of separating the songs so it can be played by streaming companies.

For people who want to purchase the album, they can purchase the entire album, or none of it.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y

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