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Post by dumbo-octopus »

al_borland wrote: post #207
dumbo-octopus wrote: post #181

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I hate iOS shortcuts as well, I think they're one of the worst designed features on the phone and they have put some idiot PM's definition of "safety" as a direct obstacle to every user experience with them imaginable. I could see how if my job required them I might use android. But I don't think we could take that data point and extrapolate out that I "prefer" android.

It seems every time Apple tries to makes some kind of automation tool for the every-man it’s difficult to figure out for people who know how to write actual code, because none of the normal conventions are there. I ran into this with Automator as well as Shortcuts. I don’t care enough about Shortcuts to get good at it, but would probably use it more if the learning curve wasn’t so steep. It seems odd to me that I nee…

It's not that it's difficult to set up, it's that they actively put restrictions in place to completely hamstring the usability. The only shortcut I have is a geofence to automatically text my GF when I am near her house so I don't need to use my phone when I'm driving and I don't need to wait out front for an excessive amount of time. But get this: you can't actually make a shortcut that runs on a geofence, the best you can do is get notified when you're in the target area, at which point you must manually unlock your phone and trigger the event.

It has to be some boneheaded attempt at "Privacy", to that end they also force you to accept a notification saying that there are N shortcuts running on the phone Every. Single. Time. you restart your phone.

They destroy everyone's UX (and force a non-0 number of folks to unnecessarily use their phone when driving) in order to kinda-sorta-maybe prevent some corner case where a stalker had access to your phone and wants to notify themselves whenever you're around a specific location? Except they could just enable the always-on location sharing feature to get precise location data at every moment?

It boggles the mind.

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Post by miffy900 »

cromka wrote: post #131
miffy900 wrote: post #84

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The tweet in question I'm guessing you're referring to is this: > I find it distasteful, almost unethical, to say this when you have 18 million subscribers. > Hard to explain why, but with great reach comes great responsibility. Potentially killing someone else’s nascent project reeks of carelessness. > First, do no harm. It's pretty clear they're not referring to JUST the headline/title of the YT video.

I don’t agree, I could still make an opposite statement based on those quotes.

The YT title was 'The worst product I've ever reviewed...for now.'

It doesn't mention Humane or the AI Pin, there's also no brand logo in the thumbnail. Just a pic of the device itself. If you had no foreknowledge of the video or device itself, or what he was talking about, you'd have to watch at least 1 minute into the video itself to know the company and device name. The YT video title on its own can't possibly 'kill someone's nascent project' or 'cause harm' on its own.

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Post by neom »

hbn wrote: post #187
praisewhitey wrote: post #81

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worth noting the controversy at The Verge is the opposite with people saying a 4/10 rating is far too generous

It was really just their number score which doesn't seem to be in-line with what the article/video said, which was probably even more damning than Marques' video. If "I can’t think of anyone to whom I’d recommend spending the $699 for the device and the $24 monthly subscription" is a 4/10, I would hate to see the chaos that a Verge 1/10 would wreak across society.

They discussed that in the podcast and the dude who gave the score took a lot of flack for it from his co-workers, said something along the lines of "I gave them an extra point to be nice because they tried a hard thing", so it should have been a 3. Personally, I'd have given it a 1 with a nice guy point. 2/10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WGFAfirMO4

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Post by DVassallo »

slg wrote: post #13
your_challenger wrote: post #3

The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. But if a "company" with many hundreds of people can't handle a title and goes under, it never deserved to exist.

>The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. I clicked through to that Vassallo guy's twitter and that is exactly the argument he is making. He isn't defending the product, which he admitted he has never actually used. He isn't defending the company. He isn't even arguing against a single thing said in the body of the video. He is solely objecting to the title for being "sensationalized" as i…

Finally someone with good reading comprehension. Thank you.

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Post by DVassallo »

SpecialistK wrote: post #104
slg wrote: post #13

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>The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. I clicked through to that Vassallo guy's twitter and that is exactly the argument he is making. He isn't defending the product, which he admitted he has never actually used. He isn't defending the company. He isn't even arguing against a single thing said in the body of the video. He is solely objecting to the title for being "sensationalized" as i…

I watched the review and then saw the tweet (or a response to it) later in the day. The main takeaway I had was "who the hell is this guy telling Marques what he can or cannot think about this product?" The video was not a bait-and-switch. He was generous with criticism but fair in describing how it was supposed to work and what he wanted from it. So for this random Tweeter to suggest that Marques was being either di…

I wasn’t telling Marques anything. I was having a discussion with my audience.

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Post by DVassallo »

slg wrote: post #70
CooCooCaCha wrote: post #44

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Is that true? From the parent comment: “it is attacking someone's character rather than a product”. The twitter guy is saying mkbhd is attacking the creator of the product’s character.

You have the wrong read of what I said. To summarize the situation: MKBHD: This is "The Worst Product I Have Ever Reviewed…For Now". Vassallo: It is "distasteful, almost unethical" to criticize a product like that. Me: No, the way Vassallo challenged MKBHD's character is "distasteful, almost unethical".

Vassallo: It’s distasteful (and maybe unethical) to use a sensational title like that when you know millions of people will only see the headline and never watch the full review.

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Post by rldjbpin »

love all of this drama, which is overblown partially because of the ai craze imho.

the OGs would know when Brownlee would openly criticize Beats headphones before they got acquired by Apple (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsxQxS0AdBY).

although things changed afterwards because of the product quality improved for the money. yet nobody batted an eye back then and Beats only grew bigger.

while i personally think that he has always been soft towards the apple ecosystem, he has been consistent and reviewed things as he would like them.

this entire debate could be summed to him giving his opinion and should be removed from his success.

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Post by nolongerthere »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #185
nolongerthere wrote: post #173

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At one point he tried making an iPhone his main phone and gave up after 2 weeks because he couldn’t figure out how to use shortcuts. He made a whole video about it.

To be fair, the Shortcuts app is a hot mess. Not only is the UX trash, it can't to basic things like trigger Siri.

but to be fair the ability to schedule texts and messages in other apps is fantastic and much better than android which still doesn't have a native orchestration tool that apps can build against.

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

nolongerthere wrote: post #218
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #185

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To be fair, the Shortcuts app is a hot mess. Not only is the UX trash, it can't to basic things like trigger Siri.

but to be fair the ability to schedule texts and messages in other apps is fantastic and much better than android which still doesn't have a native orchestration tool that apps can build against.

I'll also add that Shortcuts can do a lot of really cool stuff, but one major problem I've found is that sometimes it just... doesn't work. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason for why the same shortcut fails one time, but works another (Nothing complicated either, just launching an app). No explanation other than the failed error message.

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Post by nolongerthere »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #219
nolongerthere wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but to be fair the ability to schedule texts and messages in other apps is fantastic and much better than android which still doesn't have a native orchestration tool that apps can build against.

I'll also add that Shortcuts can do a lot of really cool stuff, but one major problem I've found is that sometimes it just... doesn't work. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason for why the same shortcut fails one time, but works another (Nothing complicated either, just launching an app). No explanation other than the failed error message.

This was a bigger problem in earlier versions of iOS, I've found them to be a lot more reliable lately, I have a shortcut that takes a sms reminder and converts it into a calendar event, (bec that healthcare provider EMS doesn't support sending calendar invite emails) back on iOS15 it would work intermittently, but ever since iOS17 it's been rock solid.
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