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Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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post #138

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I disagree - I don't care about most specs, but ASUS Zenfone is still one of the best small phones, especially for the money.

Fair enough! Tho I am curious what you mean by "especially for the money"?

Well the Samsung S-series and Sony 5-series are also decent small phones, better in several ways but more expensive.

There is very little competition.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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So I guess next thing we need is someone sueing the fucking banks that do that. Mine luckily doesn't because I explicitly use an old phone with LineageOS, the banking app, and nothing else on it for online banking. It's arguably way more secure than using your main phone with a bazillion other Apps installed and online at all times.

It's far from secure. You are using an outdated phone, which hasn't received any kind of firmware or vendor security patches in a while. And as far as I remember, LineageOS doesn't support relocking the bootloader which further reduces the overall security of your phone

What's the attack vector? There is nothing else installed on this phone, and I only turn it on when the banking website asks me to confirm the login via their app. So it's connected to my wifi for like 5 minutes.

Meanwhile my main phone is always on the mobile network, using a proprietary modem that's running ridiculously complex firmware that does edge, lte, 5g, VoIP, has its own tcp/ip stack and a dozen other super complex protocols, is closed source, gets no security reviews and is exposed to at least my mobile provider at all times. And that's just the modem. Don't let me get started with all the value-add software the phone vendor loaded the device up with. Some of which is running with elevated privileges. You seriously think this is more secure?

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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post #191

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I'm not sure cookie declining is the way to go these days. You can use "I still don't care about cookies" to stop the dumb pop ups and something like "Firefox Total Cookie Protection" if you don't want to be tracked?

Personally I set Firefox to auto clear cookies on window close except some whitelisted sites. I just use accept all most of the times since it will be cleared anyways.

This is a false sense of security. Cookies isn’t random data. It is fingerprints and all kinds of dark wizardry. Chances are your cookies will be the same each time they are generated.

You have to disable cookies or tell the company responsible that you don’t want it. The latter, I believe (though ianal), is legally binding.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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post #191
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Besides the point here, but why is it so diabolically hard to decline cookies on this site?

I'm not sure cookie declining is the way to go these days. You can use "I still don't care about cookies" to stop the dumb pop ups and something like "Firefox Total Cookie Protection" if you don't want to be tracked?

I’m on mobile though, which makes it harder, but thanks for the tip for my desktop!

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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My solution * use bank website for the one bank that requires it, otherwise I got a new bank account without silly fake security. * thepiratebay has everything Netflix and Disney does and it works anywhere

I always use websites when possible instead of installing yet more spyware disguised as a useful app. My bank, however, has the TOTP built in the app. You can't make a transaction without the phone app connected to the internet.

you can't use magisk to remove tho root and make it work?

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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I'm on a 5 years old phone with Android 14. The OEM stopped the update on Android 11 but the Custom ROM community is going strong. Not only do I now have the latest software that works smoother, but also better camera with GCam, no ads systemwide, better privacy controls through Warden and other similar apps. I just avoided e-waste.

> Not only do I now have the latest software that works smoother, but also better camera with GCam, no ads systemwide, better privacy controls through Warden and other similar apps. Sounds like a lot of that functionality could be achieved by just buying an iPhone instead. The 6s received updates through 7 major versions.

Okay but how about a better keyboard? Systemwide ad-block? Theme customization? Dolby Atmos driver? Blocking all the trackers inside apps? Blocking internet access for certain apps? YouTube Revanced? XManager Spotify? or other modded apps?

I have an iPhone 14 Pro but I don't use it a lot. Android is way better when it comes to providing a feature-rich experience. Not that iOS is bad but it's quite limiting.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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The article casually refers to Asus breaking “their promise” but nothing in the rest of the article suggests Asus ever promised anything of the sort. That they used to provide the tools wasn’t a promise. Did they ever advertise or up-front communicate that these tools would be made available and maintained?

There was system part in developer settings which they removed AFTER you bought the phone. Thus clearly removing functionality that was supposed to be there.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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post #32

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The pixel 4a is the last good phone that's small, rootable, with a headphone jack and good rom options.

I just looked it up... they actually sell Factory 5a... what? No... Maybe I misunderstand the posting.

They stopped including headphone jacks at some point, IIRC after the 4a.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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post #141

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I think GP meant two other devices (not from asus) where the vendor doesn't patch and the bootloader is locked.

You're correct. My other phones were from my wireless carrier, and didn't support unlocking the bootloader, so I had to keep upgrading (over a period of years.) I bought the Zenfone to try to break that cycle. The old devices still function, aside from being outside of vendor support (or in the case of one, incompatible with the carrier's network after infrastructure upgrades.)

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Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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> Not only do I now have the latest software that works smoother, but also better camera with GCam, no ads systemwide, better privacy controls through Warden and other similar apps. Sounds like a lot of that functionality could be achieved by just buying an iPhone instead. The 6s received updates through 7 major versions.

With Android, I'm an admin of my phone with full control. With iPhone, you're just a user.

That’s the point. I have enough systems to administer, I don’t need to manage my phone as well.
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