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macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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hypothetical excerpt from the commit message: code review: self-reviewed test plan: this change is so obvious no tests are needed

I wish you were joking…

   those who don't know: ^_^
   
   those who know: -_-

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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MacOS has bugs and inconsistencies everywhere. Some are bugs, some are inconsistent UX, only a few of them are "well... I just don't like it". An example: you cannot right click app-icons in the Docker in the mission control overview. The list of specific annoyances and bugs is likely in the 3 digits by now, and I've only used it for half a year. The worst of all was getting the M2 soft-bricked by an update, because…

Mac OS UX is just bad. I've been using it daily for a few years already, but I still struggle to perform basic tasks. And by "basic" I mean "How do I move a file?" or "How do I go one folder up?". Sure, I can read about this, but this shouldn't require me to read a manual.

The gui is no different than windows in this regard. If you do it on command line its just mv and cd like its been for 40 years.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Finder cut and paste is cmd+c then cmd+option+v for move. On the rest I agree.

Which is pretty counter-intuitive: it's "copy", then "paste but delete the original"? Much more natural to remember ⌘-c, ⌘-delete, change folders and ⌘-v.

You can also drag and drop and toggle between moving and copying by holding a key

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Funny, I have the same feelings about Linux. So many bugs and glitches that it really feels like nobody actually tests anything. And Windows, while I don't remember any weird glitches, just has so many ads that it makes me feel like I'm browsing some sort of yellow newspaper. Almost every update of Windows brings with it new installed apps like Candy Crush or Amazon Prime Video that I never opted into.

Linux is that home made thing that is all function over form, you’re proud of but any time a guest wants to use it you have to be there to make it work, and it’s pretty ugly. Windows is the tacky plasticky thing you bought at Walmart/Amazon. It works, but you’re not putting it out to show anyone. It’s a cheap TV. Apple is the nice expensive thing you got from a design magazine but sometimes you wish they had thought…

Mac os is literally a gui on a turnkey linux distro. Under the hood its very comfortable.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Not saying you're wrong, but what else is there that just works and is usable instantly when you open the lid? While my work Windows laptop might be faster, it's certainly not the one I'm going to pick in a pinch or when I want to travel with just one laptop. The best mobile configuration I know right now is a Macbook Pro + Parallels. Even with all of its deficiencies. Are there any good Linux laptops with similar ex…

You could always install Linux on your Macbook Pro. Personally I prefer MacOS though.

Why? Macos is already a unix os.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Some people think that I am crazy when I said that I would prefer to use Linux instead of the MacOS in a MacBook if this was an option for me. I constantly have network issues and UI issues that I can just recover after reboot the system. But the big problem is the MacOS experience, I really hate it.

What MacBook do you have that you can't run Linux on it?

Any with arm

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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MacOS is the worst OS on planet. I lost all my data after MacOS updated to 14.x from 13.x, because the laptop stopped starting after update and apple employees have to factory reset the entire system. And unlike any other laptop, where you can just remove hard drive and save your data, this is not possible on Apple devices, because HDD cannot be removed... Also since 14.x in on my laptop, it restarts EVERY SINGLE DAY…

Apple has a great backup tool called Time Machine that would have had you whistling a different tune if it were used before your system failure (which can happen with any system fwiw).

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Please name a competitor with better laptop hardware (I assume your workplace provided you with a laptop). Things such as better screen, lower fan noise/computing power ratio, speaker quality, touchpad and battery life.

> Please name a competitor with better laptop hardware (I assume your workplace provided you with a laptop). My workplace provides me with a MacBook yes. I honestly prefer using my 5 year old Dell G5. I absolutely hate MacBook screen. It's reflexive, whereas I very much favor the matte finish of basically every other manufacturer. Fan noise for me is essentially irrelevant. Not that my Dell makes that much noise anyw…

You sound a lot like me.

I think macOS has the worst window management of any major OS especially for power users. It's so bad that buying a half dozen third party apps to "fix" the UX disaster that is macOS has basically been normalized.

I don't like any touchpad so even if a MacBook touchpad is better it's still just the best worst method for mouse input.

I think Apple makes nice hardware though. But I also work docked basically 99% of the time and use it as a desktop replacement so many of the Apple hardware advantages are moot for me. I'm kind of shocked when I see people voluntarily working on a laptop undocked. Working with a crappy keyboard, a crappy touchpad, and a small screen is torture to me even if it's the best crappy keyboard, the best crappy touchpad, and the best small screen.

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