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A lot of civilians being killed by the enemy driving global condemnation.
Are there any other examples from history where the goal of combatants was (or at least appeared to be) to maximize the destruction of their own side? If so, what were the outcomes of these?
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The court did not say that Israel is committing genocide. It didn't even require a ceasefire. Do you not know what "preventing" or "committing" mean either?
Why do you think it asked Israel to prevent acts of Genocide instead of asking both sides of preventing acts of Genocide? Do you believe that if there’s no suspicion that acts of Genocide are being committed by the IDF the court could have emitted such ruling? I’m not trying to fight in here. You don’t need to be condescending this is not reddit my friend.
Hamas explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel and Jews. Nobody has any doubts around what they would do if they had military supremacy.
The ICJ won’t order them to not commit acts of genocide because they aren’t the object of South Africa’s complaint. (I also don’t believe they fall under ICJ jurisdiction, being a non-state actor.)
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The use of the word genocide in this context is just pure propaganda. There are plenty of conflicts with significantly higher human toil where this word is not used.
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This actually varies on the control of the situation. If it’s an active battleground due to ongoing hostilities this does not apply and it is considered invaded rather than occupied with different standards.
Ongoing hostilities by which party.. The game of propaganda - the side with the best funded and most sophisticated and networked censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus - manufactures consent for what people believe, from what scope and narrowed context and angle they're perceive a situation at; and when the truth is becoming too clear the clarity is fogged with emotion and outrage.
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Killing Journalists is bad. .. Then bombing their innocent families homes is bad. We should talk about bad things paid for by our taxes and supported by us indirectly. Discussion on Reddit+HN shutdown/down voted by organized Zionist groups. Also bad.
That doesn't answer my question? A lot of things are bad, most don't make it to the HackerNews front page...
What other main themes do you see in the other upvoted stories that worry you.
Is it possible that there are fewer stories about the Hamas atrocities because there are fewer and there isn't much to discuss? I think they are unquestionably evil and should be imprisoned or killed. And that is an absolute belief that doesn't waver even if I also think Israel are doing a bad job of
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The sheer amount of times that Israel's [1] lies [2] have been exposed [3] again and again [4], in the current conflict and from before, leads to the only conclusion that IOF's claims that benefit their narrative must be assumed false until proven true by independent investigation. Their own investigations frequently prove their own initial claims are false. Moreover, "murky definition of a journalist" is a weasel wo…
Do you have a refutation of the specific claim regarding Al Jazeera journalists doubling as Hamas agents?
Yes, sure, Israel is committing war crimes. This whole thing started because Hamas attempted to commit textbook genocide and has 80% support along the West Bank population.
The US set half a million Japanese on fire for less. There is not a country in the world that wouldn't be doing what Israel is doing in Israels position.
For context, a total of 69 journalists were killed in WWII, 63 in the Vietnam war both of which lasted several years. As of today March 6th 2024, the Gaza invasion has left 86 journalists dead in less than 4 months. That is an amazingly high percentage for the expected mean in a conflict. Sources: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/israel... https://www.icij.org/inside-icij/2024/02/over-75-of-all-j…
That's a remarkably small number. It makes me think journalists weren't present in the warzone at all. Irrespective of which side you support, Hamas is notorious for colocating themselves among civilians. An elevated civilian death count, including journalists is to be expected. However, the numbers being THIS high in this short a time is alarming and tragic.
Is it???
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Alternatively, you can watch this documentary where journalists wearing identifying gear away from the action were shot by a sniper during the peaceful "March of Return" (2018). These were the "Palestinian Gandhis" Israel supporters keep talking about. They were massacred. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s
> peaceful "March of Return" How is trying to storm a sovereign border peaceful? Pretty sure if a mob stormed any normal government border they would be shot.
It’s not. But it’s not grounds for lethal force. Audible warnings, warning shots and non-lethal rounds were the right moves.
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> when one side routinely pretends to be civilian Israel actively promotes illegal, violent settlements that kill Palestinians under IDF protection. [1] / [2] --- Israel has on a number of occasions provoked border disputes and then claimed that IDF soldiers killed in those disputes were civilians. [2] > On that very day, however, a high-level decision was taken by the IDF to send a patrol of soldiers dressed up as p…
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The book also covers up to 2006, I'm happy to post more examples once I've read that far. :)