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How well do they function? Do they provide nice consistent heat? How's the noise? Sorry to clog up HN with a random request of a product quality review but I'm in the market right now to replace my furnace as well. Thanks.
Heat pumps need to come with an electric heater because pumps stop working below 30 deg F.
Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
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#212I have an aging gas furnace that’s about due for replacement and a heat pump may be in the cards. Something I’ll need to research is how a heat pump would compare to electric heated flooring, though because the way my house’s HVAC system is set up the upper floor is heated before the lower floor, which exacerbates the natural temperature difference that results from heat rising and means the lower floor can be chilly…
You can do both. For example: https://www.arcticheatpumps.com/radiant-floor-heating-with-h...
Will consider going with a heat pump nonetheless.
Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#213I just replaced a furnace... everyone I called for a quote would not touch a heat pump with a 20foot pole, or they wanted prices that were 2X what a separate furnace and AC would cost to install. It was very strange. This is the second home where I had this experience.. basically, they really did not want to install it. I ended up going with gas as no local person would install/warranty a heat pump, or, it was priced…
Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#214One of the big problems with heat pumps in New England is that our electricity costs 1.7x the US average ( https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... ). If you're in the South, a heat pump makes perfect sense. You're going to want AC anyway and it'll be way more efficient and save a ton of money when you want heat. In most of the country, even if it gets cold your electricity prices are still a t…
If California is serious about this, they need to reign in the utilities to reduce prices and or stop the attacks on solar installation.
Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#215Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#216One of the big problems with heat pumps in New England is that our electricity costs 1.7x the US average ( https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... ). If you're in the South, a heat pump makes perfect sense. You're going to want AC anyway and it'll be way more efficient and save a ton of money when you want heat. In most of the country, even if it gets cold your electricity prices are still a t…
Alright, maybe I’m out of touch, but I don’t think electricity is expensive in California. Even during 115 degree heatwaves in a 70-year-old, 3-bedroom, single-family home. Most I paid was $100 in a month with 2 people with gaming computers working from home. Not everyone has that kind of money, but my point is that most people have cell service and other services which add up to more than electricity costs. That’s f…
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#217Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#218I just replaced a furnace... everyone I called for a quote would not touch a heat pump with a 20foot pole, or they wanted prices that were 2X what a separate furnace and AC would cost to install. It was very strange. This is the second home where I had this experience.. basically, they really did not want to install it. I ended up going with gas as no local person would install/warranty a heat pump, or, it was priced…
That sounds like a fantastic opportunity for a fresh company to take over the market. Heat as a service. It costs about 2kUSD to get air to air exchange heatpump installed here (minisplit, includes the cost of the pump, EU). Takes approx 3 hours.
I saved ~ 10k doing the install myself. The equipment is inexpensive, labor can be upwards of 2x equipment cost.
Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#219I just replaced a furnace... everyone I called for a quote would not touch a heat pump with a 20foot pole, or they wanted prices that were 2X what a separate furnace and AC would cost to install. It was very strange. This is the second home where I had this experience.. basically, they really did not want to install it. I ended up going with gas as no local person would install/warranty a heat pump, or, it was priced…
If you’re somewhat rural the contractors just don’t have the experience to do it so they try to quote you out of the decision. I had to shop around until I found a contractor that had done this before and I was able to get a whole home heat pump for about the same price as a regular furnace/AC system (because of the rebates).
The HVAC contractors here are pretty small, maybe they do not want to take the risk.
As someone else said, if I had more time, I would have purchased a few DIY split systems... I might do that for AC only, as I did not replace the AC at that time.
Re: Nine US states are teaming up to accelerate the adoption of heat pumps
#220Has anyone found a good way to control all the features of a heat pump with home automation? I’ve been lookin at Daikin and Mitsubishi but Daikin no longer has an open api and I don’t see much on Mitubishi. It seems like every heat pump comes with its own proprietary remote, and the thermostats and Wi-Fi modules (if available) don’t integrate well.
From there, I've got a few automations including:
- Automatically turning off "conflicting" units (Heat vs Cool)
- Schedules (set bedroom to cool at night) and "Away" modes
- Temperature overrides using custom built temperature sensors (BME280 to the rescue)
- Access and control via voice (via Google Assistants)
Unfortunately, the integration is reliant on the cloud, but you can connect a "traditional" relay based thermostat to them as well (with the loss of variable load control for the outside unit).