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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by ogurechny »

hexage1814 wrote: post #162
amatecha wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yeah, I see it as inevitable. I'm blown away that YouTube is still accessible without an account. It's only a matter of time, though, I'd wager. I never thought Twitter would require an account to view its content.

It's not the same site, but it's the same company: one thing that caught my attention lately is those little messages nagging you whenever you access Google without being logged in. And... those sorta passive aggressive behavior always start like this. Like, "Oh, why don't you log in? It's good for you, log in!", and as the time passes that behavior just gets more and more hostile towards the user until you end up re…

You can try to guess the reason for such high temperature user boiling, it's not hard.

There is a single TOS and privacy agreement for all Google services. If you “just” log in to Chrome to synchronize history because “it's convenient”, you also allow everything else, including AdSense and other all-across-the-web tracking. By formally becoming a client, you lose most of legal protections against indiscriminate data collection.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by Eji1700 »

nomilk wrote: post #131
ryandrake wrote: post #124

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But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

> Twitter is/was not a utility I've found no substitute for getting breaking news on a specific topic (e.g. natural disasters, war, politics, sport). Google News is second best, but the sites it indexes are at the absolute least 20 minutes behind twitter. Zite was my favourite app from many, many years ago. But it was good at collating daily reading, not for up to the minute/second curation. For certain topics that a…

This is a void that should be filled but is akin to tv or news paper of the past which were as close as you could get to breaking and also privately owned.

The tech is there now for the government and other entities to distribute with open protocols or things like rss, but Twitter never was that

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

ipaddr wrote: post #191
amatecha wrote: post #153

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Yes, assume every video you watch and like is going to get deleted in a week or month or year, or whatever. We don't know the timeline but it's really not a question of "if", just when.

It's surprising how much gets removed often by creators or youtube.

That too! If I go to my old "Favorites" playlists (or whatever they're called), something like 3/4 of the content is gone! Sad stuff.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by chii »

nomilk wrote: post #148
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #135

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Unless you are working as a journalist, or for some other reason you need to respond immediately to world events, you could just abstain.

> you could just abstain. True for the most part. But occasionally there's good reason to want to know some information sooner rather than later: outbreaks of war, dangerous/breaking events in your localised area, dangerous weather alerts etc.

all of those should have a primary source. Twitter is merely a secondary source.

So to avoid twitter, you can subscribe to the primary source.

At least it used to be this way. But then a few official places that annouce things have turned to use twitter as their primary source.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by monero-xmr »

viraptor wrote: post #194
monero-xmr wrote: post #186

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For the “Newspaper of Record” to report such fantastical news stories, as if anecdotal reports and opinions are real news, shows the obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Why write such articles at all? It’s “The NYT never said it would collapse, they just reported numerous articles implying it MIGHT collapse and everyone says it will!” OK!

Knowing what many people believe is itself useful, especially if you annotate it with "there are no signs that this is actually going to happen". > obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Yet, you can't show me an article that says this. Is this left wing media obsession, or is this what you believe about NYT? Twitter was a hot topic and they reported on…

Sure sure, down the memory hole. No one said Twitter would collapse after firing 7500 people. Everyone assumed it would be fine. All of these articles were simply conjecture, just something to speculate.

When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by godelski »

ryandrake wrote: post #124
yterdy wrote: post #109

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People are working through their grief, knowing that a utility that is essentially the modern postal service was sold to someone who is essentially the modern Hearst.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

> But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square”

Yes and no. The thing that makes a social media useful (not necessarily good) is the same thing that makes it hard to leave: userbase. Centralization.

I think it would be weird if people __weren't__ upset. You act as if it is easy to make a collective decision to move platforms. I can't get a collective decision in my friend group for where we should go get food and drinks, and that requires far lower consensus and the stakes/effort needed are much lower. People also frequently complain about places they visit in real life, including restaurants they frequent.

> It’s yet another corporate-owned

Btw, being privately owned doesn't mean it isn't a public space.[0] This should be a bit unsurprising when we look around places and how people organize. People go where other people are, full stop. Doesn't matter if it is public or private property (clear example being malls or cafes). Doesn't matter of online or offline. The major difference is we don't treat online spaces as abstracted versions of offline spaces despite them often being built to serve as that exact thing.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

AstroJetson wrote: post #37
koito17 wrote: post #7

On one hand, this is unfortunate since X always directs me to a login page, and Nitter was the only way I could view whatever gets posted nowadays. On the other hand, the cynical side of me is thankful that I have no more desirable means to see the contents of posts on X. Edit: a similar thing happened with Reddit and Teddit(?). API restrictions effectively killed alternative frontends, so I simply don't look at Redd…

Yep, it will be easier to cut the X habit off. I'll miss Nitter, but I'll be happier in the long run. I was a Reddit Apollo user, and it was easier to wean off of Reddit when I had to use their horrible app or their website. Even using old.reddit has been painful.

I lurk Reddit for local news without ever logging in. They recently started restricting anonymous users to a limited amount of comments on long threads. That finally motivated me to switch to Firefox plugins that re-layout old.reddit.com to be usable on mobile. Thanks Reddit for the much improved free web experience.

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Post by flexagoon »

npunt wrote: post #52

I just want to run a headless browser that logs into my socials periodically and scrapes the stuff I want from the account I follow and puts it into a less addictive format that provides an upper limit on my possible exposure and engagement. I’m happy to run it locally from my device. Ideally it redirects links to socials I come across too. Where is such a thing?

You can generate an RSS feed of any twitter user using RSS Bridge:

https://rss-bridge.org/bridge01/

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Post by [deleted] »

cgh wrote: post #121
jjackson5324 wrote: post #45

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Interesting because the content I get on X is far, far more valuable than HN + Reddit + Facebook combined. It’s the only place you can follow subject matter experts and get their real time thoughts. I think people on HN just don’t know how to use Twitter? If you want to use it effectively, you have to utilize lists. Curate your own lists or find someone you respect and follow their lists. If someone is posting things…

Nearly every subject matter expert I followed has left. Scientists, mathematicians, journalists, authors, comic book people, and so on. What I now see are people with demented political opinions about women and American politics. It sucks.

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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by burgerrito »

What's frustrating about social media closing off public access is that, most of the time, they don't even do it correctly--instead of showing a dialog or a message to sign in to view content, they just straight up show an unclear, ambigous error message. Twitter and Instagram does this AFAIK.

Also a bit OOT but there is also something that I think needed to be said: search engines SHOULD be clear whether a content is accessible without account or not, whether a content is accessible is paywalled or not.

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