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Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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This attitude seems a little silly to me—being "extra vigilant, pedantic and strict" about happy-path code would necessarily imply the same about "exception and error paths". Generally speaking, bugs mostly appear in a binary fashion and not in varying degrees—ie your code either reflect expected behavior or doesn't.

As a game developer, I definitely distinguish high-risk and low-risk parts of the code base. There's code that can be allowed to fail, and furthermore, it will eventually fail due to the sheer amount of this code, the development time constraints, the number of possible game states, etc. I don't care that this code rarely fails under some arcane conditions, because this simply causes some button to stop working, some…

TBF, I can't name more than a couple dozen sets of game software that I would consider "quality". That shit is generally developed on a deadline and it shows.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a game developer, I definitely distinguish high-risk and low-risk parts of the code base. There's code that can be allowed to fail, and furthermore, it will eventually fail due to the sheer amount of this code, the development time constraints, the number of possible game states, etc. I don't care that this code rarely fails under some arcane conditions, because this simply causes some button to stop working, some…

TBF, I can't name more than a couple dozen sets of game software that I would consider "quality". That shit is generally developed on a deadline and it shows.

Well, yes, deadlines are best practice.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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FTA: "Showing an unhelpful error message and then requiring a user to delve into the world of the command line to fix things. What is this? Linux?" What did the author want, a button to push for each solution to every possible exotic error, even critical ones that would require to resize a system partition from a running OS? Seriously!? Of course one solve this through the command line. Or, if that wasn't what the au…

Well yes. That is Windows (Or Macintosh) 's whole shtick.

People get Windows/Mac for the convenience of 1 click solutions and the understanding that most things will work with one click, or at most a few clicks and a login.

It also comes with the expectations that such massive companies won't completely annihilate their computer with a buggy update.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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When installing the update, some users are finding themselves faced with an 0x80070643 error, a generic failure message. Unfortunately, according to Microsoft, "because of an error in the error code handling routine," this might not be the correct error. Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error. I'm curious how often the error code code needs touching that there is an error in there t…

> Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error

Try MS Teams: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/msteams-docs/issues/8539#is...

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#218

Can Microsoft just bring back a proper QA department instead of leaving it to unpaid "Insiders" who drink the Flavor-Aid and think Microsoft can't code a single thing wrong?

Based on the feedback community I don't think that's a particularly accurate take of Insiders as a whole. That said it's been ~10 years now since they dumped the traditional QA department (which involved more than just leveraging external user validation) and I honestly can't say Windows is blowing up any more than it was the previous 10 years to that. I'd really like to see some actual measured statistics of e.g. pa…

Gee... Let me forward that request to our QA depart... Oh. Oops.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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post #40

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once you've paid for win10, you as a user is no longer a revenue but a cost. And you can obviously guess what happens to costs.

But why bother to change UI at all

To make you buy what you currently have as a future feature
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