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Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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I work on Microsoft's anti-spam team, AMA!

Why doesn't whitelisting an address ensure one receives messages from it, the address has never sent spam, sends at most a couple of emails a day. But I couldn't receive emails from it, there was no notification or information despite the address being on my whitelist?

What's the rationale there?

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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I work on Microsoft's anti-spam team, AMA!

Similar question as my sibling comments. I have rented a server with a static IP address for over ten years now. Nobody else has used this IP during this time. Yet, every few months I have to beg Microsoft to unblock the IP. In the beginning I could do this on my own, but something changed a few years ago and now I have to beg my ISP (netcup) instead to contact Microsoft on behalf of me to temporarily whitelist the d…

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I really don't understand how people think government issues services have more privacy, when in reality it is the exact opposite. It didn't even take NSA leaks to know that government privacy violations are lot more both in terms of quantity and the impact. I would never use a government email if it is tied my real self. At least in my country I know for a fact that data which should be legally private is used by po…

I don’t trust them with privacy. But I don’t trust FAANG with that either. But I do freak out about loosing my domain name where my email is hosted, or access to an iCloud / gmail account that a lot of services are anchored about. Two months ago LinkedIn did not like me changing my 2FA client, and locked me out for a month. I have over 5.000 contacts and was chasing a few leads to change jobs. I can tell you is cold…

> I don’t trust FAANG with that either.

That's fine. But they NEED to ban people using their service from spam else they would dominate. That is what people don't understand.

> but having a government provided email for secure recovery purposes would feel reassuring.

It depends on the country and the region, but I have faced issues multiple times with not able to make any progress with the government. It happened in much more important cases like passport, for which if something fails on their system, you are screwed.

Nobody provides support in government services as well unless it is required by law, and I have been locked out of government services. In countries like China, you could be locked out of government service if your credit score is low. In Sweden you could be locked out of it if you don't allow unions.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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I run my own mail servers and hotmail and other Microsoft-based email services regularly blocks my mail by source IP on the various domains I run.

I've been using the same /29 network for over 15 years now. There's no nearby adjacent networks that are on any blacklists.

I monitor blacklists on a regular basis.

No marketing. The domains I run are strictly personal and projects. I monitor volume and all kinds of stuff. I know there's nothing like spam or any kind of marketing going outbound.

It's astonishing how honest Microsoft is when I send them an email telling them to unblock. They literally just admit that they never had reason to block the domain/IP and they unlist it for a few years and then it goes back on their list.

It's become apparent that they blacklist by default.

Fortunately I only run into the occasional idiot who uses Hotmail or live.com.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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I work on Microsoft's anti-spam team, AMA!

What's the best way to quickly get MS to trust a server/domain?

Does MS ignore IP reputation in cases where the domain has a good reputation?

How would you go about getting a new domain and an IP address from a public cloud provider working consistently?

I've had issues with outlook when it comes to new domains and IPs, but after some time it works. I do however usually have more email than a personal server so what's the best way - if such a thing exists - for a personal server that has much lower volume of mail to be trusted?

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Why not avoid fighting these windmills by using any of the existing commercial mail relays for sending — like SES or mailchimp?

We shouldn't have to. These companies are fucking ridiculous and blanket ban entire swaths of the internet from sending email.

Do you have a better solution?

You can complain on the forums about how unfair life is, how incompetent companies are, fight every provider to prove your reputation until cows come home,… Or you can pay someone to handle that for you. It’s a no-brainer. The whole discussion is moot.

You pay your plumber to plumb, your builder to build, and email delivery company to deliver your emails. Trying to DYI everything is a waste of everyone’s time.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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The United States already has that. It’s called the United States Postal Service.

I tried searching around to see if USPS offered hosting an email address in the same way I can have mail delivered to a physical address and I was unable to find it. Can you provide a link?

USPS provides postal mail to all citizens. All government business can be conducted through the mail. If the government provides email should they also provide phone, fax, and chat services?

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Contrary to popular belief, most homeless people have cellphones.

well then however they are affording a mobile phone and the monthly service, they can probably figure out how to pay $5/month for email if they don't want to use one of the free options.

People can have an older phone, given free, cast off by people buying the latest-and-greatest, and use public wifi for everything. The phone can literally be free.

This requires no monthly service.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Make it cost a few cents to send a mail with it, just like stamps of physical mail. It's mostly intended for receiving anyway.

That's the truth, really. Email should cost [$0.02] or some similar value. You'd solve spam overnight.

Hum, maybe finally a good use of a distributed, append-only database (like blockchain)?

Reputation ledger where reported spam takes a lot off (say 100 units), sending an email costs little (1 unit), and possibly a way to earn more reputation by not having particular email be reported as spam (1.1 units back after 2 weeks for every sent email).

To enter the system, you need to start with at least 1000 units.

Re: Outlook/Hotmail is no longer blocking my mail server

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Estonia has personalidentificationcode@eesti.ee and registrycode@eesti.ee, which you are supposed to set up to forward to your actual email aadress. Unfortunately these are restricted for use by governmental agencies for important official notifications (e.g. you're being conscripted, your marital status changed, something has changed in regard to a property you own). [0] You could create a public alias of the form f…

> Unfortunately these are restricted for use by governmental agencies for important official notifications (e.g. you're being conscripted, your marital status changed, something has changed in regard to a property you own). When your marital status changes, isn't that a notification that goes from you to the government, and not the other way around?

The marital example is something I came up with, but not actually sure if that happens as I haven't gotten married myself. But it sounds something like that would exist so you can react to someone faking your identity and registering a fictive marriage with someone in your name.
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