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Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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Post by worik »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #207
formerly_proven wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read a lot of Linux kernel code and I’m just a meager application developer.

The key difference is you are licensed and entitled to read the Linux source code. GTA 5 hasn’t been licensed to you and you are absolutely not entitled to read it, even if you managed to get hold of it due to a theft. By reading it as an app developer you taint your knowledge with stolen intellectual property and stolen trade secrets, potentially exposing yourself and any game you work on (including for an employer)…

> By reading it as an app developer you taint your knowledge with stolen intellectual property and stolen trade secrets, potentially exposing yourself and any game you work on (including for an employer) to criminal and civil penalties.

Yes

How stupid. What a stupid waste

Got to love capitalism

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Post by bombcar »

FartyMcFarter wrote: post #187
epolanski wrote: post #180

Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

Speedrunners probably care too.

This is probably the most likely source of interest; modders might get some benefit from knowing the actual source but the decompiles are usually just as good (except variable names, perhaps, see Minecraft SRG, etc).

But speedrunners might be able to realize new exploits to reduce time that aren't apparent from the decomp.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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Post by ndriscoll »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #207
formerly_proven wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read a lot of Linux kernel code and I’m just a meager application developer.

The key difference is you are licensed and entitled to read the Linux source code. GTA 5 hasn’t been licensed to you and you are absolutely not entitled to read it, even if you managed to get hold of it due to a theft. By reading it as an app developer you taint your knowledge with stolen intellectual property and stolen trade secrets, potentially exposing yourself and any game you work on (including for an employer)…

If developers became tainted by knowledge of proprietary/secret code, wouldn't you be bound for life to your first employer? And wouldn't reading GPL code like Linux also taint your mind for life? What if a coworker or some random FOSS author read the code and later used a technique they saw, and then you see it and your mind is now tainted too? Sounds like a nonsense "risk".

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Post by tarruda »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #207
formerly_proven wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read a lot of Linux kernel code and I’m just a meager application developer.

The key difference is you are licensed and entitled to read the Linux source code. GTA 5 hasn’t been licensed to you and you are absolutely not entitled to read it, even if you managed to get hold of it due to a theft. By reading it as an app developer you taint your knowledge with stolen intellectual property and stolen trade secrets, potentially exposing yourself and any game you work on (including for an employer)…

Is the risk any different than that if a programmer who used to work for Rockstar games?

Aren't former employees allowed to learn from their experience working on GTA V and develop products based on that knowledge, just as Rockstar programmers have used prior knowledge to develop GTA V?

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Post by buildsjets »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #10

ubisoft deserves to get the source code for all their old games leaked. One by one they have shut the servers down (quite understandable because of server costs) but offered no ways or means whatsoever to play them alienating the old fans really hard. Some of us have memories of playing the older games which we can never relive again. It should be illegal for a game company to shut an online only game down without of…

Indeed, I sincerely hope someone leaks Rocksmith 2014 soon, as well as all the no-longer-available CDLC packs. The current Rocksmith+ is a completely different application and is not a substitute, I want the real thing that I already paid for back.

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Post by worik »

nottorp wrote: post #152

I don’t see how the source code of a game being public is a problem; the game will be as enjoyable (or as crap) with or without the source code public. Oh wait, Rockstar are going the multiplayer plus gacha route. A leak may hurt because the players may not need the gacha. For single player games, I see no problem. And for those hoping more games release source code, I don’t think the source for commercial games is i…

What is "gotcha route"?

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Post by rzzzt »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #203
epolanski wrote: post #180

Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

Worse, no competitor should allow their employees to ever download or worse look at the source code as it would taint all their IP with possible theft. Just because the code is leaked doesn’t mean Rockstar has lost ownership of the intellectual property, it just means everyone distributing it is participating in the theft and everyone holding it is complicit. Worse by reading it and possibly using trade secrets embed…

ReactOS also treated/treats leaked Windows source code this way (disallow contributions even if you have academic or goverment-backed permission to look at it).

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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Post by stjohnswarts »

ozim wrote: post #202
epolanski wrote: post #180

Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

There are people in Amsterdam that steal bikes only to sell them for 10Eur. I just don’t understand why would anyone do that but I am software dev working remotely it doesn’t make sense in „my world” - it most likely makes sense in someone’s else world.

Opioids are a hell of a drug

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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Post by bathtub365 »

93po wrote: post #160
underdeserver wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publishing it would be breaking the law and exposing themselves to a lawsuit, which they would lose. The swag is nice.

Who said anything about publishing. Just give it to a friend who might share it with peers

Now in addition to copyright violation you’re part of a conspiracy

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Post by ndriscoll »

worik wrote: post #216
nottorp wrote: post #152

I don’t see how the source code of a game being public is a problem; the game will be as enjoyable (or as crap) with or without the source code public. Oh wait, Rockstar are going the multiplayer plus gacha route. A leak may hurt because the players may not need the gacha. For single player games, I see no problem. And for those hoping more games release source code, I don’t think the source for commercial games is i…

What is "gotcha route"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha_game

Putting a mechanic into your game where you spend real world money to gamble for skins and stuff. Game companies realized they can make a lot of money selling what modders used to be able to do for free. It's apparently a well known thing that there exist "whales" that spend huge amounts of money on these things. Probably a decent number are addicts being abused.

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