what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.
I have no shame for my selfishness in this case
Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?
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#212Youtube seems to me to be a bullshit test platform. They will work around ad blockers and continue to pile on repetitive and banal adverts that have nothing to do with the user until they reach breaking point (where people flee and seek alternatives), and then they will relax their system to show marginally less bullshit. The confusing part of this battle is the app users, who do not agree with the avalanche of adver…
> (where people flee and seek alternatives)
The problem is the moat. The moat is money.
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
I should generate some incompressible 4K 60 FPS videos that consist of three hours of randomly generated static and upload them out of spite.
I'm not sure if "incompressible" is possible, at least in a way that Google would still consider an annoyance.
It's not, Google's encoding targets bitrate, not quality. If you upload incompressible content, all you get is forcibly compressed artifacts. Makes no difference to them if it's random noise or a high-effort video essay.
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#214Youtube seems to me to be a bullshit test platform. They will work around ad blockers and continue to pile on repetitive and banal adverts that have nothing to do with the user until they reach breaking point (where people flee and seek alternatives), and then they will relax their system to show marginally less bullshit. The confusing part of this battle is the app users, who do not agree with the avalanche of adver…
Video hosting is expensive and needs to be paid for somehow. Any competitor will have the same problems as Youtube does. You can go the Nebula route and require users to pay (which means far fewer users) or require creators to pay (which means far fewer creators). You could also require creators to host the videos themselves, but that also requires money, expertise and causes downtime when a video goes viral. There's…
Sure, ad revenue is an important method of funding media, but that is a very different claim from saying that YouTube's implementation of ad delivery is anything close to good.
The simple fact is that the ad ecosystem YouTube directs has produced lots of low effort "content" farming, enterprises focused on raw output at the expense of quality, truth, and frequently the intellectual property of others.
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#215Imagine valuing your time so little you waste it trying to block instead of just abstaining or using premium. When Facebook started being user hostile I stopped using it wholesale. Anti Google YouTube folks haven’t gotten the message yet. If you make 25 an hour - the bottom decile wage for software engineering - and waste more than half an hour on this a month, idk what to say. That’s a minute a day. Chop chop. By th…
If everyone would reason like you, do you think Google won't raise premium prices even more, or put ads for "lesser" premium users, a-la Netflix base subscription?
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#216Possibly unrelated, but youtube videos stopped playing on Safari on my iPhone yesterday. Previously, Youtube would play via Safari, and the ads wouldn't. This was apparently a bug / unimplemented feature. I do have AdGuard (non-premium) on my phone as well as overly-aggressive lists on my Pihole, so it's possible there's something new going on there. It looks like free Youtube may be coming to an end.
I have the same setup (sans the Pihole since i have decent 5G but shitty wifi where I' sitting) and it still works. You might have to refresh the video page sometimes though before it plays.
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#217I've never had an issue with Firefox
Also a Firefox user. The internet is unbearable with ads. If a browser doesn't filter ads well it's unsuitable for use in 2023. If Chrome can't block YouTube ads anymore, then it's just not even a contender. The normies tend to lag a little with these things, but it won't be long before "Firefox is the one that works on YouTube" is common tech trivia.
I wish you were right but I doubt you are. Yes, the internet is absolutely unbearable with ads -- to you and me. But so many people suffer in silence and consider ads to be a minor annoyance that's simply inevitable.
Same with Android TV: most people accept the default launcher that serves ads and pushes content constantly. It takes some work to change the default launcher, but people won't even try. They accept it.
I pray every day that Manifest V3 will be the beginning of the end for Chrome, because it cripples ad blocking in an unacceptable way. But I very much doubt it will happen.
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#218Newpipe also works great on Android! Haven't seen an ad since I installed it, and you can also download videos and play while minimized.
Newpipe doesn't work well in my experience, and crashes often. Firefox Mobile + uBlock O is better.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
Video hosting is expensive and needs to be paid for somehow. Any competitor will have the same problems as Youtube does. You can go the Nebula route and require users to pay (which means far fewer users) or require creators to pay (which means far fewer creators). You could also require creators to host the videos themselves, but that also requires money, expertise and causes downtime when a video goes viral. There's…
Sure, ad revenue is an important method of funding media, but that is a very different claim from saying that YouTube's implementation of ad delivery is anything close to good. The simple fact is that the ad ecosystem YouTube directs has produced lots of low effort "content" farming, enterprises focused on raw output at the expense of quality, truth, and frequently the intellectual property of others.
That may be true, but if you don't like YouTube, go somewhere else.
The argument that it's your machine and you choose what to run on it no longer holds when YouTube clearly no longer wants people with ad blockers as visitors.
So watch ads, pay up, or go somewhere else.
I always get downvoted for stating the obvious, but YouTube's monopoly was helped by adblockers, because alternatives, like Vimeo, couldn't differentiate themselves by being ads-free.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me. I still don't see how it has anything to do with a tantrum. A tantrum is someone yelling and screaming because they aren't getting what they want. This is Google getting exactly what it wants, and I don't see any yelling and screaming. It's just quietly asserting its rights to block adblockers.
Does google really have the right to block my control over what is shown or not shown on my computer? They may have the ability to do so, but that is not necessarily equivalent to a right. For example, what if I had a robot that detected when an ad was being played on youtube, and automatically turned off my monitor and headphones momentarily, turning them back on once the ad was over. Would that violate google's "ri…
The German gonvernment (or rather the "Federal Office for Information Security") actually recommends to install an ad-blocker. So there's that ;)
https://www.bsi.bund.de/EN/Themen/Verbraucherinnen-und-Verbr...