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Post by aranelsurion »

adamrezich wrote: post #99
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

how common do you think this perspective is? outside of places like this one, of course. as far as I can tell, the average person's perspective of the guy likely hasn't changed much in the past few years at all.

I'd expect somewhere in between the strong negativity on the Internet and total obliviousness.

Average person probably doesn't consciously register all that is happening and can't tell you about the past weeks' drama, but I think there's a certain point where too much negativity attached to a brand starts to drag it down, and Tesla might have reached that point.

I'm not saying it certainly has, but a few years back the outlook on Tesla was so overwhelmingly positive, you'd have to actively seek out criticism on your own. At least nowadays sentiment on them seem to have returned back to Earth.

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Post by mschuster91 »

blackguardx wrote: post #164
dgrin91 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both run by Musk and they have a lot of folks who have swapped between the two. In general they have very close connections.

I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

Musk does this routinely, also with the Boring Company or with Twitter - upon his acquisition, he took a lot of Tesla staff with him to Twitter HQ [1] to help out.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-th...

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Post by slowhadoken »

talldatethrow wrote: post #107
SantalBlush wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This factoid about motorcycles is a complete non sequitur. It's as if someone forgot what they were talking about in the middle of making their point.

The point is, people contribute heavily to their deaths on motorcycles. And I assume on foot too. Wearing ear phones? Chance of death through the roof. Talking on the phone? Way more dangerous. Out at night walking after a drink or two? Better watch out. Don't look both ways, twice? You're in trouble.

Yeah the driver is usually doing something stupid like texting too. Which reminds me of the Werner Herzog documentary From One Second to the Next (2013) @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1vCqfYpos

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Post by randomcarbloke »

xp84 wrote: post #3

I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

form over function in a vehicle designed for utility.

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Post by illumanaughty »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #118
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I will take your reservation if you have one. I have one, but am looking for a second. I can like the cars but not like Elon, very little nuance required in holding the position [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37949037

Maybe see if it's any good first lol

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Post by manmal »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #118
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I will take your reservation if you have one. I have one, but am looking for a second. I can like the cars but not like Elon, very little nuance required in holding the position [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37949037

> as someone deeply concerned about climate change

> I have one, but am looking for a second

I think you are only superficially concerned about climate change if you are planning to buy not one, but two, fully steel enclosed monster trucks weighing 6.500 pounds each.

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Post by me_me_me »

AYBABTME wrote: post #197
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone gets bigger cars because bigger cars have more room inside so they're really comfortable and practical. Teslas are heavier because they have to use batteries and batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol. This is the consequence of you asking them to get rid of combustion.

They're not "inefficient", they're less power-dense in terms of mass. There's many types of efficiencies and where a car is involved, EVs are largely more efficient in those measures than ICE cars.

well the weight of petrol disapears, batteries' stay the same.

So petrol is more efficient in that way.

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