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Ah, yes: negotiations between the EU Father, the EU Son, and the EU Holy Spirit.
Was also gonna drop trilateral
> danaris
Princcccesssssssssss!
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“Di” as a prefix is normally adequate when referring to two (dimension, dilemma, dichotomy, etc) and yet it acquires an “a” in “dialogue”. Possibly a similar word constructed from the “tri” prefix should also have an “a” inserted.
The etymology of dialogue is from the Greek `dia` meaning `through` and `logos` meaning `words`. https://www.etymonline.com/word/dialogue explains the common confusion with di-
Thank you! TIL.
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I'm still waiting for the day when we'll replace the word "lobbying" with "corruption".
Agreed, that is exactly what it is. It's a huge stain on democracy and in many ways subverts it. Companies don't have the right to vote and should not be able to do an end-run around the electoral process with their money.
> Companies don't have the right to vote
https://www.businessinsider.com/some-cities-are-allowing-cor...
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Agreed, that is exactly what it is. It's a huge stain on democracy and in many ways subverts it. Companies don't have the right to vote and should not be able to do an end-run around the electoral process with their money.
> Companies don't have the right to vote it seems they do... https://www.businessinsider.com/some-cities-are-allowing-cor...
Some cities are more idiotic than others, apparently, but in case it wasn't clear the context was general elections. Not that what you point out isn't a travesty and should be dealt with before someone figures out that you can create as many companies as you want.
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You're throwing the baby with the water here. Lobbying I'd argue is an essential part of democracy because it allows groups of people that have a shared concern to come together and make their case to the politicians.
But that shouldn't come down to the money. If only the people who amassed huge amounts of money can influence there is no democracy.
Lobbying does not have to be done via donations.
Otherwise I'm very curious how NGOs can lobby.
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#218I've become so jaded by the EU that was expecting the worst from this, so kudos Let's see how quickly it'll resurface again
I was jaded by this proposal as well, but jaded by the EU in general? GDPR, forced interoperability from gatekeepers, the 2 year warranty on anything bought online This attempt at breaking encryption completely stood out with the usual things The EU seems like the only governmental organization that's working well to improve my life, in my country. Everything else is either decaying or opposing my values.
Just one example:
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They used to literally walk around the House floor handing out donor checks. From https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/02/14/h... : > “…it was publicly disclosed that Boehner in the last week of June 1995 walked around the House floor delivering six or more of the Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corp. PAC checks. > “in the same week Boehner was giving out the checks on the House floor, the House Appropriat…
1. You realize this thread is about EU? 2. 500, even in 1995, is a token amount of money to the representatives. I highly doubt they changed their vote for that little money.
You were talking about high corruption and low corruption countries in general. Did you forget your own context?
The point that I and several others have made is that what “low corruption” often corresponds to is that corruption has been legalized in various ways.
Re the amount, the fact that it’s a token is kind of the point in those cases. It’s a public display and reminder to everyone where their campaign funding is coming from. Other amounts are often donated at other times, and larger amounts may come from other companies in the same industry. They didn’t change their vote for those specific checks, it’s more like a reminder that the vote that had already been bought was coming up.
Their tactics apparently worked on you to make you inclined to ignore the exact kind of blatant corruption you had just been criticizing. It’s not “low corruption”, it’s corruption that’s apparently less easy for many people to recognize.
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But that shouldn't come down to the money. If only the people who amassed huge amounts of money can influence there is no democracy.
Lobbying does not have to be done via donations. Otherwise I'm very curious how NGOs can lobby.
What do you imply? To me it doesn't matter if you use a different word for monetary value, be it donation or something else, it comes down to the same, namely money.