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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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To be fair, the name "ChatGPT" has quite a bit of mindshare and I've found many non-technical folks referring to any generative AI product as "ChatGPT" or "GPT". Yet, if you asked any single one of them what "GPT" stood for, they'd have no clue.

To be fair, I'm a dev who uses chatgpt on an hourly basis and I had no idea what GPT stood for until I googled it just now. I think it's kinda smart to make people strongly associate GPT with OpenAI

why would it be smart? people can advertise their own models as GPT because it’s a generic term and confuse people into thinking it’s an OpenAI thing

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None of them, but here's the thing: they never made any sense.

Yeah none of them ever did, and that was always very obvious. If you can make it by wrapping a few API calls, you have no moat and anyone can steal your idea/customers.

First-mover advantage can be powerful. If you can build a community around your wrapper quickly then you can leverage that community to build a moat.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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So these "GPTs" are the combination of predefined prompts and custom API access? Not customly trained LLMs? If so, I guess you can make such a "GPT" on your own server and independent from a specific LLM service by using a prompt like ...you have available an API "WEATHER_API". If you need the weather for a given city for a given day, please say WEATHER_API('berlin', '2022-11-24') and I will give you a new prompt inc…

“GPTs” (terrible name) === Agents

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

And seeing how OpenAI is moving up the value chain, what's the guarantee they won't come up with an in-house competitor to the bot that was built on their platform?

Guarantee? That's one of the most important aspects of bothering to build out a platform: eat the ecosystem to add incremental value to the platform, bolster the moat.

The guarantee is that they will clone and extinguish most of the best bots/tools/services riding on top of GPT. It's what platforms overwhelmingly tend to do.

If your thing is a near-touch to GPT, depends on it, is of medium complexity or lower, and is very popular/useful, they will build your thing into GPT eventually.

On the flip side, if you're Salesforce and using GPT to augment something about a major product, you're not facing a serious threat of OpenAI trying to become the next big CRM company.

This process will work similarly to how it did with Windows, Google, AWS, etc.

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Some use cases are still valid I hope. E.g. content generation on a massive scale. An example of that that I'm tinkering with: https://meoweler.com

Can I ask what the goal is here? It's cool to be able to spin up a nicely designed website (and it is nicely designed and has a good aesthetic), but isn't the content going to be semantically empty? I don't want to be negative but it feels like cheap plastic imitation of a real thing, and the web is already full of spammy low quality content. Aren't you in danger of your products having a very short life cycle and en…

The quality of the GPT4 content for travel is surprisingly good, although there are of course plenty of hallucinations and I've a new pass for the content set up that gets rid of the worst offenders. This is really just a learning experiment, but building something of this content scale by 1 person was absolutely impossible a year ago.

The point was that content generation use cases might be a viable path give OpenAI's thin-wrappers-killing direction.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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> We’ve made ChatGPT Plus fresher and simpler to use > Finally, ChatGPT Plus now includes fresh information up to April 2023. We’ve also heard your feedback about how the model picker is a pain. Starting today, no more hopping between models; everything you need is in one place. You can access DALL·E, browsing, and data analysis all without switching. You can also attach files to let ChatGPT search PDFs and other doc…

The lack of transparency around how they release access to features is infuriating. Especially when you pay for the product. I cannot stand it.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Sam's "all our marketing is from word-of-mouth" was refreshingly honest.

Would be somewhat humorous to plug OpenAI into ad platforms, give it budget, and say "go market yourself as effectively as possible."

That would not be humorous -- that would be the AI equivalent of "The China Syndrome"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Syndrome

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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> I wonder how much money ... I saw that announcement and my immediate thought was "God yet another thing passive income youtubers will be shilling soon" In general, I was a little confused by this. Sam's demo of creating a GPT didn't seem particularly exciting as well.

I would pay money for a GPT that was incredible at naming types in Swift I’d pay for one that was good at programming rubber ducking There are specific sub-tasks that everyone would pay for to make their lives easier. This marketplace is trying to make that efficient

I suppose you're going to ask GPT to do Cache Invalidation eventually too?

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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A species doesn't automatically get more altruistic towards other species once it gets smarter. Look at how many species humanity drove to extinction.

True humans have been remarkably ignorant throughout our short history. Though you might notice though that most folks dont go around abusing animals or hurting other people on purpose. Take from that what you will. Give this essay a read if youre interested in good faith arguments about the danger of AI at the current state of development. https://1a3orn.com/sub/essays-propaganda-or-science.html Maybe together as a…

>Though you might notice though that most folks dont go around abusing animals or hurting other people on purpose. Take from that what you will.

It doesn't matter what "most folks" go about doing. If anything it makes things all the scarier. All this destruction we've caused to so many other species and we weren't even trying.

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