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Re: New models and developer products

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Post by Joeri »

tyree731 wrote: post #197
bluck wrote: post #164

Copyright Shield > OpenAI is committed to protecting our customers with built-in copyright safeguards in our systems. Today, we’re going one step further and introducing Copyright Shield—we will now step in and defend our customers, and pay the costs incurred, if you face legal claims around copyright infringement. This applies to generally available features of ChatGPT Enterprise and our developer platform. So essen…

I am not a lawyer, but this doesn't seem quite "free". Note that they aren't indemnifying customers for any consequences of said legal claims, meaning that customers would seem to bare the full brunt of those consequences should there be a credible copyright infringement claim.

But it does guarantee that any customer that can’t afford a big legal team uses their big legal team, reducing the chances of a bad (for them) precedent caused by an inept defense.

It also discourages predatory lawsuits against small users of their API by copyright trolls, which would likely end up settled out of court and not give them the precedent they want.

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Post by cdolan »

bluck wrote: post #164

Copyright Shield > OpenAI is committed to protecting our customers with built-in copyright safeguards in our systems. Today, we’re going one step further and introducing Copyright Shield—we will now step in and defend our customers, and pay the costs incurred, if you face legal claims around copyright infringement. This applies to generally available features of ChatGPT Enterprise and our developer platform. So essen…

"Everything that is old is new again"

Thats called "...we have Microsoft's lawyers behind us. Bring it on!"

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Post by thethimble »

shmatt wrote: post #208
bluck wrote: post #164

Copyright Shield > OpenAI is committed to protecting our customers with built-in copyright safeguards in our systems. Today, we’re going one step further and introducing Copyright Shield—we will now step in and defend our customers, and pay the costs incurred, if you face legal claims around copyright infringement. This applies to generally available features of ChatGPT Enterprise and our developer platform. So essen…

The investors will only get their 1000x if OpenAI can convince people its risk free to use. So they'll happily cover the legal battle to prove it or spent every last company penny trying

Or, alternatively, copyright risk is a major concern for real customers, and this is a major step forward in addressing that.

Not everything needs to be so cynical. What’s good for investors can be good for users as well.

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Post by tannhaeuser »

coder543 wrote: post #66
visarga wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mistral + 2 weeks of work from the community. Not as good, but private and free. It will trail OpenAI by 6-12 months in capabilities.

OpenAI offering 128k context is very appealing, however. I tried some Mistral variants with larger context windows, and had very poor results… the model would often offer either an empty completion or a nonsensical completion, even though the content fit comfortably within the context window, and I was placing a direct question either at the beginning or end, and either with or without an explanation of the task and…

That's my take-away from limited attempts to get Code Llama2 Instruct to implement a moderately complex spec as well, using special INST and SYS tokens even or just pasting some spec text along in a 12k context when Code Llama2 supposedly can honor up to 100k tokens. And I don't even know how to combine code infilling with an elaborate spec text exceeding the volume of what normally goes into code comments. Is ChatGPT 4 really any better?

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Post by stuckkeys »

It is just a matter of time before they get a huge disruption. Yes, by the definition of success they have accomplished something extraordinary. I have used OpenAI playgrounds before they even made a mark and I knew someday they were going to wow everyone. The problem that I sought to be impacting individuals out of their hard work is the lack of credibility. Any content that OpenAI used during the training needs to cite the origin and list the success rate. If they are allowed to profit of previous work, well guess what, the original content makers deserve the same.

Don’t let my input discourage you; this is going to make everyone super efficient and it is definitely going to help us grow in areas we lacked intel but I just think that their business model screws the living financial status of those who actually make answers valid.

I am still hoping to see some inline models, compete with OpenAI, using consumer grade hardware. But for now I will continue to be a customer because I have no other great choices. Cheers to the unlimited source of knowledge.

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Post by realce »

shmatt wrote: post #208
bluck wrote: post #164

Copyright Shield > OpenAI is committed to protecting our customers with built-in copyright safeguards in our systems. Today, we’re going one step further and introducing Copyright Shield—we will now step in and defend our customers, and pay the costs incurred, if you face legal claims around copyright infringement. This applies to generally available features of ChatGPT Enterprise and our developer platform. So essen…

The investors will only get their 1000x if OpenAI can convince people its risk free to use. So they'll happily cover the legal battle to prove it or spent every last company penny trying

I'm starting to think that part of the regs around this sector should be that you can't prevent public investment to occur.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by Yadayadaaaa »

whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

Just because something is great doesn't mean that others can't compete. Even a secondary good product can easily be successful due to a company having invested too much, not being aware of openai (ai progress in general), due to some magic integration, etc.

If it would be only me, no one would buy azure or aws but just gcp.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by stuckkeys »

ren_engineer wrote: post #95
whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

depends on how much developers are willing to embrace the risk of building everything on OpenAI and getting locked onto their platform. What's stopping OpenAI from cranking up the inference pricing once they choke out the competition? That combined with the expanded context length makes it seem like they are trying to lead developers towards just throwing everything into context without much thought, which could be p…

Reminds me of that sales entrapment approach from cloud providers. “Here is your free $400, go do your thing” next thing you know you have build so much on there already that it is not worth the time and effort to try and allocate it regardless of the 2k bill increase -haha. Good times.
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