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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by Kye »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #180
hcnews wrote: post #175

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Would be interested in a link to a model if you have one handy!

That could be any gaming laptop from any manufacturer., those are the only ones who still ship with upgradable RAM and dual M.2 slots.

Finding one with a decent screen for anything other than gaming is the trick. I linked it up there, but this is IPS with 100% sRGB, more brightness than most people need, 16:10 (vertical space is nice!), 165Hz, and matte! Most gaming laptops are...not that. Maybe 50% sRGB on a dim glossy TN screen.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by jki275 »

elif wrote: post #196
internet2000 wrote: post #158

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I imagine the amount of people upgrading from an M2 Mac will be close to 0, while there's a lot of Intel stragglers out there.

I think the point is more that "is it worth buying this new m3 or should I buy a secondhand m2 for half the price?"

I don't think you're going to find any M2s for half the price. They hold their value pretty solidly.

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Post by goosedragons »

minimaxir wrote: post #185
killerdhmo wrote: post #173

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You know they announced a price cut right?

The price cut is the new starting model with just the M3 as a new SKU. The old comparible SKUs are about the same.

It's arguably also a price increase over the outgoing 13" M2 MBP model it replaces which was $1300.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by nomel »

osti wrote: post #24
jdprgm wrote: post #11

I don't understand why they don't update the entire lineup whenever a new chip comes out, especially if really only swapping the chip in the macbook pro and imac here. On a separate note does anyone have any insight on how unified memory compares to vram in the context of machine learning performance? Considering an H100 with 80GB costs like $30k a maxed out macbook pro with 128gb unified memory for $5k is interestin…

They just updated their macbook air and mac studios and mac pros like 6 months ago? If they updated right now, the previous owners would feel utterly screwed over.

This is a perspective that comes from stagnation. Tech is progressing again, finally. This is normal for tech, and a good thing.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by blovescoffee »

Jensson wrote: post #202
nblgbg wrote: post #171

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The M3 chips are 30% faster than the M2 chips for efficiency cores and 15% faster for performance cores. The overall performance is still impressive and there is no alternative to M*s when compared with performance per watt. But others have caught up, for example https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-7940hs is very good.

> But others have caught up You mean others now got to use TSMC's 4nm process? These new M3 chips are probably on the 3nm process, Apple is still a generation ahead here. It looks like Apples aim is to always stay a generation ahead of its competition, I wonder how long they can keep that up since they aren't running their own fabs.

They are literally on the 3nm process. They say so in the video.

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Post by coffeebeqn »

rickette wrote: post #84
stetrain wrote: post #63

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They've been doing more multiples of 6/12 lately, I supposed it's related to the available chip sizes for the LPDDR5X. M2 and M3 go up to 24GB M3 Pro is available in 18GB and 36GB M3 Max is available in 36GB, 48GB, 64GB, 96GB, and 128GB

Why do I need to select the most expensive M3 Max version (the one with 16 cores) to get 48 or 64 gigs of RAM. The M3 Max with 14 cores only allow 36 or 96 gigs. Just let me choose 14 cores and 64 gigs.

You are in their target market of who they can really squeeze since you want something a little bit special. Their memory pricing has always been absurd. Even on an older MacBook it was often +$200 for something silly like a 16GB SODIMM that costs $50 at the store. I still think their build quality , screen quality and OS are pretty much unmatched.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

Kye wrote: post #211
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #180

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That could be any gaming laptop from any manufacturer., those are the only ones who still ship with upgradable RAM and dual M.2 slots.

Finding one with a decent screen for anything other than gaming is the trick. I linked it up there, but this is IPS with 100% sRGB, more brightness than most people need, 16:10 (vertical space is nice!), 165Hz, and matte ! Most gaming laptops are...not that. Maybe 50% sRGB on a dim glossy TN screen.

>Most gaming laptops are...not that.

Then you haven't been looking close enough. Cheapo gaming laptops yes, but Lenovo Legion, Asus G14 plus most other more premium models from other manufacturers have very good screens.

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Post by nomel »

TylerE wrote: post #52
jdalgetty wrote: post #31

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Yup I bought an m2 mbp about 3 weeks ago.

Feels like it's moved super fast. I just bought an M1 Studio earlier this year.

Almost four years now, for M1. I get the impression that people are used to Intel’s stagnation that we were stuck with for some time.
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