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USB-C head-to-head comparison

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Re: USB-C head-to-head comparison

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In my experience having bought cheap, middle of the road, and high end USB-C cables and adaptors, Apple's have been the only ones that have lasted me more than a year.

Caldigit's Thunderbolt cable which comes with their dock has lasted much longer than that.

Caldigit is hardly bargain bin Aliexpress/eBay level stuff, their cables should be premium level.

Re: USB-C head-to-head comparison

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The thunderbolt licensing is pretty strict, so I'm not sure anyone is selling knock off thunderbolt cables that underperform the rated specs.

Oh you'll be surprised at the kind of cheaping out products on AliExpress can achieve

I bought an USB-C to Magsafe 2 (for my 2015 mbp) cable off AliExpress to cut down on having a device-specific charger just for it.

It works for exactly one second and it fails.

It was SO BAD that AliExpress emailed me that "this product is a counterfeit and you should ask for a refund" :D

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I wish they had compared to off brand thunderbolt cables to see if Apple’s is worth the premium

Yeah, this article is Apple favoring FUD. There are tons of high quality USB-C cables. You just need to pick the right one.

Can you give me even 100 grams of brand names for the high quality ones from the tons you know?

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There should be a colour banding system, like resistors use.

Something like that was tried with usb 1.1, 2, and 3, being white/black/blue. But many manufacturers got very loosey-goosey with it. I'm sure it'd be worse as soon as a common spec for this popped up for USB-C.

Yeah, that was actually quite helpful (when properly implemented). Especially in era of laptops that had a mixture, you knew to plug in the portable drive into blue not the black USB port (and put your phone to charge into yellow one:).

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post #208

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Umm what?

"Lightning" in "lightning cable" is spelt "lightning" and not "lightening". Lightening is "to make lighter", and "pocket-lightening" likely refers to him/her not liking to spend money on lightning cables or that he/she thinks that they cost more than they are worth.

thanks for still having some will to engage neurons...

Re: USB-C head-to-head comparison

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> It should be mandatory that these cables are correctly spec’s and labeled Why doesn’t the USB standards group mandate labeling of some type? Probably not words, but symbols would be good enough.

Why stop a labeling? You could design the connectors to only terminate at another connector that supports the same features, preventing anyone from confusing one cable for another. And the reason we don't do that is because it would expose the lie that there can be a universal data and power connector for all devices, and rather than live in a world where everything can connect perfectly fine with the right cables, w…

> And the reason we don't do that is because it would expose the lie that there can be a universal data and power connector for all devices

And yet, such a connector and cable does exist!

> everything can connect perfectly fine with the right cables

Right, because carrying 3 different cables to give a presentation, which I wont be able to if I forget one of them, or it gets too bent in my backpack is indeed "perfectly fine". As opposed to carrying just 1 USB-C cable (which as a bonus I can use to charge my Android phone in case the battery unexpectedly starts running out before the end of the day) and even if it gets damaged or broken, odds are increasingly that there will be several other people who will also have that cable.

> rather than blame the device manufacturer for choosing a shoddy cable, or the government for forcing them to, we can happily blame the cable manufacturer instead

And we can't do that with universal cables because?

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Better is relative. The EU goals is standardisation to reduce e-waste. Unless Apple are going to innovate a way make every phone manufacturer adopt their fancy new connector, it’s never going to “better” than USB-C. If you’re evaluating connectors from the perspective of reducing e-waste.

“We are going to put all of our effort on standardizing cables so when Android users have to throw away their phones every year because they don’t get updates at least they won’t have to throw away the cable”

So your argument is we shouldn’t bother trying to standardise anything, or reduce any e-waste until Android phones start receiving long term updates? That’s an odd hill to want to die on.

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post #181

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It’s not useless and they said on X they will buy more cables and scan those too.

Why didn't they make the post after they made this immense additional investment for more cables? Yeah...it's not useless for their and Apple's marketing department. For everybody else, it is.

Because this is what they have tested so far?

Are you worried about the internet paper that will be wasted and the digital trees that will be cut down if they post a follow up in a second blog post?

Re: USB-C head-to-head comparison

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I wish these were more widely available: https://caberqu.com/home/20-42-c2c-caberqu-746052578813.html... I have one from the kickstarter, and every new USB-C cable gets tested and labeled. Most are USB 2.0. A few will have the power delivery pins. It's such a crapshoot on any shopping site. It should be mandatory that these cables are correctly spec'd and labeled.

Maybe I'm just stupid but I want one of these that just prints out (or lights up next to text) something like: 5w 10w 15w 20w ... and 480mbps 5gbps 10gbps 20gbps 40gbps and maybe USB2 USB3.0 USB3.1 USB3.2 gen 1 USB3.2 gen 2 Thunderbolt 3 Thunderbolt 4 Or something like that. At least once I month I go searching for USB cable testers for this exact purpose and within 10min my eyes are crossed and I just close all the…

I think I recall the designer of the tester I got was unable to reliably ascertain the different types of cable, so pin testing was the next best thing. I agree, it would be great to have a smarter cable tester.

Re: USB-C head-to-head comparison

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post #181

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It’s not useless and they said on X they will buy more cables and scan those too.

Why didn't they make the post after they made this immense additional investment for more cables? Yeah...it's not useless for their and Apple's marketing department. For everybody else, it is.

You seem way too upset for such a non issue.
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