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All this performative righteousness is only going to end up hurting your cause in the long term. If a major site offers an ad-free option, and people refuse to take it, what does it tell the executives? What does it tell other publishers who are considering their monetization options? How do you think a business should respond to users that neither refuse to watch ads nor pay, can't be bargained with (see above), but…

the amount of ads on youtube has grown exponentially and i highly doubt this was because of profitability issues.

In a hypothetical world without adblockers, wouldn't YouTube need to show a lower amount of ads per person to make the same amount of revenue?

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I think the only "happy ending for everyone" if Google is going to ban ad-blockers for YouTube is if they make the ads less annoying. What makes YouTube's ads annoying: - the number of them 2 ads at the start is way too much. 1 max. Middle of video ads should be content creator controlled. - the ads they choose to show Google showing me the same few very annoying (to me) ads and gives me no option to avoid those spec…

The only happy ending for everyone is zero ads.

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Youtube are the ones stealing. I pay for premium, but people who don't and still block ads are not wrong.

What is YouTube stealing?

Lots of things in different ways, but for one example, ad & premium money from videos that they demonetize.

Not to mention literally stealing original content and granting it to anyone else who simply claims copyright without proving it or being able to prove it since it's not theirs.

Then there are all kinds of indirect ways as a consequence of their various policies and how they implement and enforce them, like showing me ads after taking my premium money, or collecting and selling the profiling data of my watch/like/dislike data, etc.

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While I understand your point, I still wouldn't give money to a company with such privacy violations. If YouTube had a subscription option where YouTube only used my watch history to improve my suggestions, then I'd gladly pay a subscription for it. But in its current form, I either give money to Alphabet while they continue to track me and sell my data to advertisers, or I just block the ads myself to avoid giving t…

Google doesn't sell your data to advertisers.

Maybe not today. Go prove it in court. Until it's proven in court, it's just heresay.

What certainly is being proven in multiple courts, though, is Google's malfeasance and manipulation to create and abuse an advertising monopoly.

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Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

I welcome the block frankly. Youtube is both a productivity hole and a recreation hole. I welcome more actual entertainment and work back into my life.

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I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

I'd buy it, but $14/m is way too much for no ads imo. Especially since this is a "free" service where the justification for me paying X$/m is because i have to offset the ads i would have otherwise watched. You're (Youtube, not OP hah) telling me i provided $14/m in ad revenue? Of course not. I'd insta-buy if i could just pay to skip any ads i actually would have watched. Give me a stat showing me how many ads i miss…

> You're telling me i provided $14/m in ad revenue? Of course not.

Do you really think Google just set the price arbitrarily? That would be surprising.

My impression has always been that ad free tiers are actually less profitable for video providers.

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Google doesn't sell your data to advertisers.

Maybe not today. Go prove it in court. Until it's proven in court, it's just heresay. What certainly is being proven in multiple courts, though, is Google's malfeasance and manipulation to create and abuse an advertising monopoly.

Okay great idea! Why don't you start by suing Google? I'd love to follow your court case and see what comes of it.

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I think the only "happy ending for everyone" if Google is going to ban ad-blockers for YouTube is if they make the ads less annoying. What makes YouTube's ads annoying: - the number of them 2 ads at the start is way too much. 1 max. Middle of video ads should be content creator controlled. - the ads they choose to show Google showing me the same few very annoying (to me) ads and gives me no option to avoid those spec…

> Middle of video ads should be content creator controlled.

They are, sort of.

As a content creator you pick the position for the ads, but it doesn't mean they'll pop up there for everyone, there's only a chance they'll show up there. For example you could put mid-roll ads every minute, but youtube will only pick one of those positions so the viewer only sees an ad every 10 minutes or so, the real "cooldown time" depends on what data youtube has on the viewer.

Content creators can disable mid-roll ads completely.

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