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First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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I wonder how many AI massage iterations this is away from being able to completely copy arbitrary books without opening them, and if this technology will hasten the demise of paper texts.

If you can just stack 20 random books and within seconds have them be indexed and searchable digital ones, libraries as we know them will suffer perhaps the final blow in obsolescence.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> It is incredible and beyond conception Could you elaborate a little bit about what you think gives it these qualities? I've dabbled in some classical literature before but I've always found them to be very difficult reads, so I rarely have the motivation to finish them. I am wondering if there is something I am missing about the genre.

Sometimes it seems like everything from the Greek and Roman era is known and has been processed by historians and, furthermore, doesn’t have really anything to provide us in the present day. My experiences with ancient texts makes me realize that there are so many remaining mysteries (that can be illuminated!), so much material that has never been “processed” by historians or philosophers, and so much that can be use…

We are usually not aware of the degree in which Classical and Medieval thought provided the foundations of our modern world. For example, the concept that the universe can be studied by human reason and described with mathematics started as a philosophical/religious idea.

If you haven’t read it yet, I recommend that you check out “The Light Ages” by Seb Falk.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> In early August, contestant Casey Handmer, an ex-JPL startup founder and polymath interesting terminology, I've never been given accolades for being a multifaceted human being. I've gotten "generalist" and "after much consideration, we have decided not to proceed with your candidacy "

Hilarious.

From what I've seen, genuine polymaths shirk away from being identified as one, and if they do decide to get recognition, they're shooed away for the unforgivable sin of Not Being Famous Enough.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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This is one of more than 600 scrolls that could be read afterwards if the method becomes scalable. What's more: "excavations were never completed, and many historians believe that thousands more scrolls remain underground." [0] [0]: https://scrollprize.org

> if the method becomes scalable the machine learning stuff is cool, but it's important not to discount the apparently pretty manual labour still involved in the virtual unwrapping: > Early in the summer, a small team of annotators (the “segmentation team”) joined our effort. They began mapping the 3D structure of the scroll using tools initially built by EduceLab and improved by our community. By July we had segment…

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Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> if the method becomes scalable the machine learning stuff is cool, but it's important not to discount the apparently pretty manual labour still involved in the virtual unwrapping: > Early in the summer, a small team of annotators (the “segmentation team”) joined our effort. They began mapping the 3D structure of the scroll using tools initially built by EduceLab and improved by our community. By July we had segment…

Actually it's much worse than that. Only a very small fraction of the first of the two scanned scrolls has been segmented/unwrapped after 5 months, and it's the easiest parts that are done -- about 1000cm^2 across something like 100 layers of papyrus 10cm wide. Only 50cm^2 of scroll 2 is done. Where the sheets are right against each other is much harder.

But that's expected!

When you are discovering to do a new thing that nobody knows how to do, you first try a bunch of things manually to learn what works and what doesn't.

Only after you have a procedure that reliably works, you automate it.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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No one can not consider that life changing in that context?

> No one can not consider that life changing in that context? Money only changes your life when you do something with it. If you just just let it sit (for retirement or whatever) and continue living as before, then your life hasn't changed (yet). If you dispute this, then consider the most extreme case: what happens if you (say) die before you have a chance to use that money during retirement? Did that money change y…

> Money only changes your life when you do something with it.

Not at all true. Unspent money is potential energy. It dramatically alters the holder's perception of risks, and thus influences major life decisions.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> No one can not consider that life changing in that context? Money only changes your life when you do something with it. If you just just let it sit (for retirement or whatever) and continue living as before, then your life hasn't changed (yet). If you dispute this, then consider the most extreme case: what happens if you (say) die before you have a chance to use that money during retirement? Did that money change y…

> Money only changes your life when you do something with it. Not at all true. Unspent money is potential energy. It dramatically alters the holder's perception of risks, and thus influences major life decisions.

The point here isn't "it can't change someone's life", of course it can. The point is there are lots of people for whom it wouldn't do so, and for those people it legitimately isn't life-changing. e.g., a lot of people would lock that money away for retirement and avoid factoring it into major life decisions at the present. Of course, there are also people who would spend a billion dollars immediately (and even those who would then go broke again). YMMV.
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