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How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by Name_Chawps »

buffington wrote: post #107
hosteur wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really. Not for any reason? Please elaborate.

Every eye doctor I've known has also said to never rub your eyes, for any reason. Here's just a short, non-exhaustive list, as to why rubbing your eyes is a bad idea: * it's very easy to scratch your cornea * touching your eyes or eyelids is an easy way to introduce infections * rubbing can increase the pressure on your eyes, which can cause damage * rubbing to try to get something out of your eye risks more damage,…

Alternatively, your eye doctor is exactly the wrong person to ask, because they have an availability bias.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by ratg13 »

ergonaught wrote: post #192
ratg13 wrote: post #185

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FYI incitement to genocide is a crime under international law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement_to_genocide

I’d like to think that your remarks displayed a special kind of horrifying stupidity. Unfortunately it seems all too common to qualify as special.

Says the person that wants to visualize the “end of the primate line”

Please keep this rhetoric localized to Stormfront or wherever you generally hang out online.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by _dain_ »

loosetypewriter wrote: post #129
_dain_ wrote: post #61

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>How do you manage to drive, without your thoughts blocking your view? They don't block the view, in the same way that the image from your left eye doesn't block the image from your right eye, even though they're overlaid on the same "mental space". Hold up your finger in front of your eyes, and focus on a distant object. You can see two images of the finger, but also see straight through them simultaneously. It's ki…

Can people who literally "see" clear mental images look at a blank piece of paper, imagine an image, and then just trace it out? I have never seen anyone do this, but based on the way mental imagery is described online by people who claim other people are aphantasiac, I don't understand why it's not a very common ability.

Some people can, but it's not common. For me the image isn't stable or detailed enough. I imagine it would get better with practice.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by smokel »

Jiocus wrote: post #52
CommieBobDole wrote: post #4

So, wait, are people normally actually seeing images, with their eyes, when they imagine what something looks like? Like, the brown-blackness of the back of your eyelids gets replaced with something you actually see, like it's projected there? I can imagine what something looks like, and I guess I sort of 'see' it, but closing my eyes doesn't make it any more real. It doesn't seem to involve the eyes or any part of t…

If I remember correctly, aphantasia is inability to visualise images, objects or memories in the mind, and this seems to be what the author actually refers to. The alternative, to actually perceive imagery with the eye that isn't there is usually called hallucination. The article doesn't get at this difference and seems to be based on Youtube videos about aphantasia. If you've ever had a dream with vivid first person…

From personal experience, I have some proof that dreams are not similar to plain eyesight, and are probably produced somewhere else in my brain.

In a dream, I saw a friend. The images in the dream were very vivid, and I could have easily mistaken the dream for reality. However, when I woke up, I could not tell whether I had seen my friend from the front, or from the back.

This suggests that the property "feels very realistic" can be produced separately from a dream actually being realistic. I highly doubt that dreams are indeed producing high quality visuals.

I have also tried to draw faces from people that I have seen in my dreams. I am fairly proficient at hyperrealistic portraits, but with the dream recall -- no luck so far.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by Shadowmist »

TuringTest wrote: post #194
LoganDark wrote: post #39

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> A friend of mine can actually place imagined objects into their field of view, like AR. I'm so jealous.

That's likely something that anyone with a 'mind eye' can do. I wonder if that's something that can be trained, just like 'fixing' aphantasia can be trained [1]: - Sit in front of a table, with a large vase of flowers on it. - Remove the vase and put it behind you. - Looking at the now empty table, try to remember the look of the vase on it. This is how it 'feels' being able to put imagined objects into your FOV. You…

I can’t focus on the table because I’m trying to figure out how these flowers are floating in mid air above the table.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by voxl »

HellDunkel wrote: post #183
voxl wrote: post #73

I think I have very good visualization skills. To the point where I can solve three dimensional geometry problems in my head with nothing external. However, I never "see" anything with my two eyes in the way I can see an afterglow of a candle or a window, as described in the video. I see with a "third-eye" or a "minds-eye." Never with me real two eyes. This means I can visualize at any point, eyes closed or open. I c…

So you can make really good drawings of the things? Like imagine a castle and draw it on a sheet of paper without any other references? I am very skeptical.

No because I don't know how to draw. But I can program in my head and reproduce on a page.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by TuringTest »

Shadowmist wrote: post #215
TuringTest wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's likely something that anyone with a 'mind eye' can do. I wonder if that's something that can be trained, just like 'fixing' aphantasia can be trained [1]: - Sit in front of a table, with a large vase of flowers on it. - Remove the vase and put it behind you. - Looking at the now empty table, try to remember the look of the vase on it. This is how it 'feels' being able to put imagined objects into your FOV. You…

I can’t focus on the table because I’m trying to figure out how these flowers are floating in mid air above the table.

Did you hear the joke about the programmer found dead in the shower? The shampoo bottle had instructions:

1 - Wash

2 - Rinse

3 - Repeat

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by fransje26 »

ergonaught wrote: post #182

As someone with aphantasia, most of the replies here prompt me to think ugly thoughts about humanity. Judgemental, hateful, repugnant species. There's really no hope for the primate line. With any luck, some thoughtless company will engineer a replacement. If only I could visualize that outcome.

Well, the author of the article is not trying to sell you anything, so why don't you let the haters be haters, and give it a try. The best that can happen is that it might help. The worse that can happen is that you are going to "waste" some time. He miss every shot you don't take.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by fransje26 »

Name_Chawps wrote: post #211
buffington wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every eye doctor I've known has also said to never rub your eyes, for any reason. Here's just a short, non-exhaustive list, as to why rubbing your eyes is a bad idea: * it's very easy to scratch your cornea * touching your eyes or eyelids is an easy way to introduce infections * rubbing can increase the pressure on your eyes, which can cause damage * rubbing to try to get something out of your eye risks more damage,…

Alternatively, your eye doctor is exactly the wrong person to ask, because they have an availability bias.

After thousands and thousands of years of evolution, without soap to clean our hands or understanding of bacteria, you would think that if eyes were so intolerant and sensitive to being touched we would have evolved to have other organs instead..

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Post by hofstee »

HellDunkel wrote: post #183
voxl wrote: post #73

I think I have very good visualization skills. To the point where I can solve three dimensional geometry problems in my head with nothing external. However, I never "see" anything with my two eyes in the way I can see an afterglow of a candle or a window, as described in the video. I see with a "third-eye" or a "minds-eye." Never with me real two eyes. This means I can visualize at any point, eyes closed or open. I c…

So you can make really good drawings of the things? Like imagine a castle and draw it on a sheet of paper without any other references? I am very skeptical.

You’re practically describing Kim Jung Gi: https://youtu.be/MGbvhyTZXfs
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