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Observable is pushing it. Technically observable, sure, but ~1dpi misplaced is… unlikely to be noticeable. Plus, if that level of accuracy is required simply adding more nodes improves accuracy exponentially. Not least, the “standard” approximation really should be updated in software, as modern 4-node approximations are down to 0.005%, almost an order of magnitude better.
> simply adding more nodes improves accuracy exponentially According to another comment, it actually improves at O(n^6).
Circles do not exist
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Observable is pushing it. Technically observable, sure, but ~1dpi misplaced is… unlikely to be noticeable. Plus, if that level of accuracy is required simply adding more nodes improves accuracy exponentially. Not least, the “standard” approximation really should be updated in software, as modern 4-node approximations are down to 0.005%, almost an order of magnitude better.
If you are misplaced by 1dpi, then your "1200 dpi" is actually 600 dpi. If you got a machine that's accurate to 1200 dpi presumably you want 1200 dpi and not 600.
If all the lines were off, then yes, kinda. Ish.
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What the hell are kibi and gibi?
They are IEC prefixes, complementary to the SI prefixes, and they only are defined for positive exponents. kibi : ki : 2^10 mebi : Mi : 2^20 gibi : Gi : 2^30 tebi : Ti : 2^40 ... Conveniently, these numbers are fairly close to 10^3, 10^6, 10^9, and 10^12 respectively (but with increasing error: 2^40 is almost 10% larger than 10^12, whereas 2^10 is only 2.4% larger than 10^3). This leads to a lot of conflation, mess,…
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Using a PDF where 0.03% matters is insane no?
Yes, that's the point. 1. PDF is to become a standard CAD interchange format. 2. Using PDF where 0.03% matters is insane. 3. If CAD requires 0.03% tolerance, then using PDF as a standard CAD interchange format is insane. I would imagine you generally want arbitrary precision for CAD.
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> I remember the first week of Geometry, they told us that the drawings of squares and circles and whatnot printed in the textbook are not intended to be accurate, so don't bother measuring them to get the answer. I considered, and to this day consider, inaccurate figures in textbooks to be sloppy job by lazy people . Sure, measuring the solution off a drawing is (in math classes) missing the point of the exercise, b…
> inaccurate figures in textbooks Sometimes it's not about being accurate, sometimes it's about the figures in the textbook representing unrepresentable, impossible situations on whatever geometry you're operating on. say euclidean geometry. Casual things like triangles where the sum of internal angles doesn't match π. Triangles where the sum of length of the two smaller sides is larger that the larger side. Being ab…
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How can I distinguish between errors of perception, errors in manufacturing, and errors of perception of the designer who eyeballed circles on a computer screen with non-square pixels?
With a coffee cup, you should be able to take a micrometer (or a piece of string) and verify roundness of the base object to whatever arbitrary precision your heart desires (and your reality will allow).
(Maybe a cheap, single-use plastic cup would be smooth enough and stiff enough and round enough, given the production process.)
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#217All we have is approximations right?