https://www.eyecontrol.co.il/ was founded exactly to solve this problem
If you're interested in eye-tracking, I'm interested in funding you
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#212https://www.eyecontrol.co.il/ was founded exactly to solve this problem
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#213Is there any solution out there that does not use IR + dark pupil segmentation?
Seems like all the solutions out there are some flavour or variation of this.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's all related. High tech has a lot of negative impacts which are rarely if ever evaluated and more importantly compensated. The reason is they bring in money. The entire supply chain and lifecycle of a product should be evaluated to understand if it is a net positive or a net negative. Not only the finished product: "wow eye tracking how cool let's deploy everywhere regardless of how the materials for that tech ar…
To be clear, in your mind when someone talks about wanting to fund certain types of software, it is someone's duty to talk about lithium batteries using lots of water?
It seems you want to keep asking the same questions over and over phrased differently and in a way that tries to discredit me or make me sound dumb, so forgive me but this discussion has now reached its end.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not available yet. And in any case if this is the future there should be multiple companies doing it, not just Apple.
I used to work on it and have spent tons of time in the headset. The eye tracking is next-level and it's really the only platform that exists with eye tracking as a primary input method. I'm pretty confident it will greatly improve your friend's quality of life. Because of that, I'm also sure that eye tracking will go mainstream in other areas once the Vision Pro is released once everyone else catches on to it as a g…
Is it doing something fundamentally different from what everyone else is doing (infrared light source, do some flavour of pupil segmentation and pose estimation)?
Is the eye-tracking performance/accuracy step change on Apple's headset purely just a software/algo change? Or is it actually using a new principle/apparatus for eye-tracking?
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#216I have a new approach of doing ML, where autodiff is replaced with something better. Magically a lot of things fall into place. This approach should make problems like this relatively straight forward. Interested in hearing more?
Interested in hearing more? If you can show your new approach works, sure. Usually this is done via papers in ML conferences, but if you have reproducible results on Github I'll take a look.
Working on it.
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I have absolutely no idea of the state of play of eye-based input devices, but I wouldn't expect an entire eye-input keyboard system to be anywhere near as cheap as $1K, but rather a figure 20-100x that.
They're currently in the $1,000-$3,000 range.
We (The Eye Tribe folks) sold one at 99$ years ago. 1k-3k is mostly lack of competition I believe.
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be clear, in your mind when someone talks about wanting to fund certain types of software, it is someone's duty to talk about lithium batteries using lots of water?
It seems you want to keep asking the same questions over and over phrased differently and in a way that tries to discredit me or make me sound dumb, so forgive me but this discussion has now reached its end.
I think I'm just summing up what you said.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is pretty much exactly why I vehemently disagree with Apple's decision to draw such a firm line in the sand preventing devs from accessing the eye/gaze data directly. I'm part of an academic spin-off start-up that specializes in analyzing gaze and movement data. Locking the gaze information outside of the app sandbox severely hampers the ability to quickly iterate design and UI patterns that could be game changi…
I don’t know much about those medical conditions, but it doesn’t take that much imagination to understand that access to eye-gaze data would pretty much give developers mind-reading abilities against whoever is wearing the headset. As the platform matures it will probably be a whole discussion around how it works, who gets access to it and for what reason. I could imagine Apple putting their weight behind developing…
Developers control what goes in front of the user and where, we'll still be able to tell plenty about a user's decision making process given that and how their head and hands navigate the space. There are plenty of companies that specialize in this as their entire product offering, assessing fitness for duty, alertness, attention mapping, etc. Plenty of published research on the matter as well.
The supposed security of blackboxing the eye data itself is illusory and functionally just for marketing.
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#220So you're saying there's a final frontier in the mapping of intention and the discernment of preferences ... and you'd like some bright young things to explore that possibility space under the guise of ( unimpeachable good cause ) ? Go to hell. Unless, of course, you'd like to commit the funded work to the free commons, unencumbered by patents and copyrights, and free to use by any entity for any purpose. That's what…
Im something of a conspiracy theorist myself, but this is irrational and unwarranted: if they wanted to research something strategic, they could easily summon the brain power (see OpenAI and the creation of near-general intelligence, and then ask where Facebooks $40B on metaverse smokescreen went to.) PG is a good guy - he sides with entrepreneurs, and created an industry-wide standard for a founder friendly seed sta…
"... this is irrational and unwarranted ..."
Agreed.
My comment violates the HN guideline to "respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says" and I beg the op's pardon.
A low (or no) return investment in basic technology to help the disabled better express their intentions - for their own private uses - is an unalloyed good.
Of my two interpretations, I will set aside my initial, very cynical reaction and wait to see what actually comes from this.