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Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic levitation of LK-99

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Re: Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic levitation of LK-99

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So far lab replication efforts are: Two from HUST: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14p4y1V7kS/ https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13k4y1G7i1/ One by USTC https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ex4y1X7ix/ this tiny sample can stand on its pointy side. One by Qufu Normal University https://www.zhihu.com/zvideo/1669820225079070720 One with THU background but claims a personal project https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14z4y1s7V…

I guess it's a mix of - It's a good opportunity to gain visibility by working something grabbing the news. 1st room temperature superconductor, that's big - (Under)graduate lab interns can be thrown onto any crash projects at will without much repercussion or resistance, boss is boss and should not be subject to questioning I did a post-doc in China, so that's my sample size N=1 piece of cheap opinion

With zero resistance actually

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I get the idea of superconductivity at room temperature in theory. But I don't have enough knowledge to understand in real terms, how will the world change if this is true?

If feasible and indeed not as expensive to produce these materials, high potential for: - higher efficiency turbines and solar panels - more clean energy for the same investment - fusion? - low-energy computing at higher performance, as we learned recently LLMs so far can't take advantage of hitherto zero marginal cost of software anymore - democratization of advanced quantum computing? It's all very exciting and in…

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It would have been more convincing if you had given real past examples rather than speculative future ones :) Although I'm pretty sure there are plenty that many people can think of, so it doesn't really detract much from your point.

Nuclear weapons. There hasn’t been a full scale war between major powers since.

As long as the people with the weapons act rationally. Which might be an anomaly.

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For those experiencing this type of "black swan, but good" event for the first time, it is helpful to recognize that the human tendency to believe that all future "big events" will be dystopian downers, is statistically unsound. For a while I've kept a list of the things that could be "good" swan events, but to be fair I didn't have "room temperature superconductor on that list" :-) Other things that could happen: 1)…

1) doesn't make a whole lot of sense. A perfect understanding of something doesn't mean you can fix anything wrong with it. 3) has already happened. The AI chat bots aren't very smart, but they're clearly capable of some degree of basic reasoning.

Not sure that AI chat bots are actually reasoning in any basic way, so much as they are filtering out noise and presenting an output that might satisfy the input, but it's often quite wrong. It's still more of a parlor trick than it is intelligence or reason.

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Is this actually true?

We would first need to build a superconducting track for the hover scooters (containing magnets) to ride on. Assuming we ever figure out how to mass produce the superconductor inexpensively. Perhaps if the track were arranged in a grid-like pattern, the scooter could use superconducting electromagnets to accelerate and steer.

If it's a room temperature superconductor there's probably 10% US GDP available annually to figure out the manufacturing considerations.

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For those experiencing this type of "black swan, but good" event for the first time, it is helpful to recognize that the human tendency to believe that all future "big events" will be dystopian downers, is statistically unsound. For a while I've kept a list of the things that could be "good" swan events, but to be fair I didn't have "room temperature superconductor on that list" :-) Other things that could happen: 1)…

It would have been more convincing if you had given real past examples rather than speculative future ones :) Although I'm pretty sure there are plenty that many people can think of, so it doesn't really detract much from your point.

Rockets landing themselves back on Earth was looked at as really weird for quite a while.

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I'd go as to far as saying GPT-4 is capable of fairly complex reasoning, at least in my experience tossing complicated questions and situations at ChatGPT Plus.

When I was tutoring people in college for their computer science classes I was struck with how some people could do reasonably well on programming assignments and then when presented with anything even slightly novel would be completely unable to reason their way to a solution. A classic tell of this is people handling out of bounds errors in loops by trying to randomly add or subtract 1 from their for-loop parameter…

You mean that's now how everyone else programs? Obviously you do fuzz testing and static analysis and possibly some sort of theorem prover verification so you don't get too embarrassed.

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Ah, teaches me to try to be lawyer :) The patent is here for reference: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2023027536A1/en And yeah, they left off Au.

Oh, that's weird. They missed all the other noble metals besides silver too. No platinum, rhodium... those things have really really interesting orbital structures, I'm surprised they're worth leaving out of something so tricky when it might be important. Strange. The only thing I can think of is that they did it and know that those noble metals don't work very well, and so they're getting everyone else to follow a w…

> but the tech doesn't look that developed

It could be that they found something incredible by chance and they’re at the limits of their personal capability to further understand and refine. The fact that they’ve known about this for over 20 years suggests maybe. It’s not a bad thing if they are, they’ve already taken one of the biggest leaps. New teams with fresh eyes and varied backgrounds will look at the problem space and undoubtedly see room for refinement.

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It's apparently hard to measure zero vs extremely low resistance with the two probe setup you are imagining (I guess because the probes and wires aren't superconducting, so most of the resistance in the circuit is not in the sample). The graphs I have seen are all made with a four probe setup [1], where a constant current is run through the outer probe pair and the voltage across the inner pair is measured. If the in…

That’s what he said. You inject a known current and measure the voltage drop across the item you want to measure the resistance of, and then use ohms law

And what he saying, and you weren’t listening to is it all your testing equipment is introducing resistance.

You can mesaure current by electrical fields, but have the same issues as before. Your testing equipment and your very tiny sample sizes.

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I'm not too familiar with this space. Could someone explain how big of an impact to the world this discovery is? What does the future of this technology look like over the next 5 years?

Hear me out: superconducting railgun for launching multi-ton payloads to supply a lunar colony without rockets
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