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The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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Unfortunately, as soon as you actually use the result of the computation in any kind of practical manner as an output, you break reversibility, though you could make the heat production happen away from the computation.

I don't think you actually need reversibility if you don't discard the energy but return it to the power supply? In other words, "reversibility", but you can actually pool the useless results together, you don't need to separate them later. Or so I read somewhere...

I might be wrong since I've studied this a long time ago, but from what I remember, in order to do that classically, you need to copy the output bits somewhere else before uncomputing your system and recovering the ancilia.

That's technically fine, as long as you have an infinite supply of stably initialized bits onto which to copy your result. Initializing those bits is going to be non-reversible in some way.

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A sister paper [0] has a photo of the material exhibiting the Meisner effect and levitating over a magnet, and claims to have a video too. Either they blatantly photoshopped the photo or they actually made a room temperature super conductor. I can’t see how the could have made a subtle mistake that resulted in magnetic levitation at room temp without making a superconductor. [0] - https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k I really need someone to bring me down a notch. This is too exciting!

Indeed, this will change pretty much everything if true. A true room temperature / ambient pressure superconductor will cause a revolution in so many fields that I find it hard to believe. But if... Let's wait for replication before throwing a party. This is on par with the discovery of the transistor and possibly bigger.

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Can someone ELI5 to those of us who aren't even sure what a superconductor is?

A material with no electrical resistance. Build a wire out of it and the voltage will be the same on both ends.

And the voltage will be the same on both ends when it has current flowing through it.

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A sister paper [0] has a photo of the material exhibiting the Meisner effect and levitating over a magnet, and claims to have a video too. Either they blatantly photoshopped the photo or they actually made a room temperature super conductor. I can’t see how the could have made a subtle mistake that resulted in magnetic levitation at room temp without making a superconductor. [0] - https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k I really need someone to bring me down a notch. This is too exciting!

What material and setup could even fake that result?

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Regular evidence will suffice. If people can make the material and levitate a small permanent magnet above the sample at room temperature, that will be sufficient.

"Extraordinarily" may mean here "reproduced in 100 laboratories consistently", beyond any doubt.

If 99 labs reproduce the results and 1 doesn't, my guess would be that the one lab screwed up.

Realistically, once you get a handful of independent reproductions, the odds that something is an error or a fraud drop to basically nil.

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Levitation is to be expected for any superconductor when it's in a superconducting state; that part is banal. The big question is whether it's actually a superconductor at RTP. Their results are strong enough that it's unlikely to be a mistake, though fraud is possible too (although it is so easily uncovered given the simplicity of preparing the material and the strength of the reported effects that fraud seems almos…

The recipe in the paper is so simple that it's giving me Pons-Fleischmann vibes. It reads more like an entry from an alchemist's journal, reproducible with chemicals and equipment you could buy on eBay or Amazon. So, yeah: big if true.

I wonder if anyone has tried to contact one of the authors to confirm the paper is legitimate (i.e. someone isn't spoofing the author's names in order to create chaos).

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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k I really need someone to bring me down a notch. This is too exciting!

What material and setup could even fake that result?

A fan?

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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k I really need someone to bring me down a notch. This is too exciting!

What material and setup could even fake that result?

They specifically act in a way to rule out fakes. For example they turn the magnet around to show that there are no small wires connecting the edges. They start and stop many times, they move in different directions. They knew the video would be watched with the default mind set that it is fake.

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"Extraordinarily" may mean here "reproduced in 100 laboratories consistently", beyond any doubt.

>"reproduced in 100 laboratories consistently" That's a pretty high bar. Everyone has their own threshold of skepticism, but if NREL announced next week that they followed the recipe and it was superconducting at room temperature, I'd be willing to bet money on it being real.

High indeed, as in "extraordinary".

I think that "reproduced at 100 labs" is near the level of reproduction at any university lab, maybe even as a part of students coursework. Which would actually be great, since we don't have trouble reproducing some other important electromagnetic and quantum phenomena, like light diffraction, at an ordinary university lab.

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