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Basically, yes. The fact that Apple and Google are still reasonably evenly fighting in the mobile market means that the rules are laxer for them than they are for MS who has far more dominant position in office suites. That is why MS got under fire for IE but Safari got free pass. The degree of market control is critical aspect here.
In the last 5 companies that I worked at, all used Google Workspace.
My employer is a prime example for this case: We use Microsoft 365 because we need Microsoft Office and use their email hosting. And then we use Teams simply because it's already included in the package anyway, even though many employees hate it, but it's hard to argue for another solution because why pay for Slack when we already have Teams "for free"? And since Teams doesn't really need to compete on functionality…
Teams main feature is that it is a front end to SharePoint. Not chat. Not video. Even before the pandemic we were using Teams for project management (via the OneNote integration) and file sharing. Each team is a full SharePoint group. Now that we are all back in the office and don’t use video, we are using Teams even more. The chat is a nice function we’ve adopted since the pandemic, but it’s a side offering really.…
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Saw the same pattern with 3 employers over the past 5 years. One killed Slack and all institutional knowledge in its search engine within a month. One replaced all remaining Intel Macs (not an insignificant amount) because Teams would being them to a standstill. The last one is currently happening and I'm wondering what unexpected cost will come to haunt this decision this time. Though one thing that always suffers i…
Slack is not a knowledge base. Stop trying to use it as a knowledge base.
This is just weird because there has been a chat app as part of Office since 2007 (Office Communicator, then Lync, then Skype for Business, then Teams). That's way before Slack even existed. Is the claim that it's anti-competitive simply because they made their existing chat functionality better ? Or because Slack decided to launch a standalone product? Can I make a standalone Excel competitor and then claim Microsof…
"Can I make a standalone Excel competitor and then claim Microsoft is anti-competitive for "bundling" Excel?" That's not a fair comparison. Imagine that there is no Excel, instead one awesome company making a standalone work sheet product that is widely popular. Next, Microsoft lags behind, comes up with a clone of it and bundles it for free as part of Office. That's anti-competitive.
My employer is a prime example for this case: We use Microsoft 365 because we need Microsoft Office and use their email hosting. And then we use Teams simply because it's already included in the package anyway, even though many employees hate it, but it's hard to argue for another solution because why pay for Slack when we already have Teams "for free"? And since Teams doesn't really need to compete on functionality…
but it's hard to argue for another solution because why pay for Slack when we already have Teams "for free"? I definitely understand this argument and I definitely understand how it plays out in the real world. At the same time, it strikes me as one of the ways companies can be foolishly cheap. If a product like Teams is making employees so unhappy, it's definitely worth spending some money to fix that. I've never us…
The consulting company is providing only warm bodies.
This is just weird because there has been a chat app as part of Office since 2007 (Office Communicator, then Lync, then Skype for Business, then Teams). That's way before Slack even existed. Is the claim that it's anti-competitive simply because they made their existing chat functionality better ? Or because Slack decided to launch a standalone product? Can I make a standalone Excel competitor and then claim Microsof…
Honestly I chalk this one up mostly to just international trade mercantilism. The EU relatively weaker at developing international software, so slapping "antitrust fines" on Microsoft (which probably have nonzero merit) is a good way of "group negotiation" to get a bulk discount on Microsoft (US) products. The analogy is how the USA is relatively less good at making quality cheese and wine compared to the EU, so the…
More broadly - the EU has an interest in the terms of trade in software being more consumer friendly because it's a net importer of software products.
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Teams main feature is that it is a front end to SharePoint. Not chat. Not video. Even before the pandemic we were using Teams for project management (via the OneNote integration) and file sharing. Each team is a full SharePoint group. Now that we are all back in the office and don’t use video, we are using Teams even more. The chat is a nice function we’ve adopted since the pandemic, but it’s a side offering really.…
I think the downvotes are unwarranted but I understand why people would disagree. Was SharePoint so bad before Teams? Is Teams that much better? I don't really know, my mega-corp work culture isn't "all in" and is not frankly that competent with a lot of tools so maybe we're missing out. But pre-teams we used SharePoint/OneDrive/WhateverBranding and it was fine. The big difference I've seen with document sharing is n…
MS has released a native app for Teams by the way. Performance is much better. I’m not an advocate for MS, I’m just saying Teams is far more than a chat or video app.
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This still makes me mad. Screenhero was the best screensharing software I've used to this day. If anyone here knows the inside story of what went down with that acquisition, please share because I was expecting such great things when I heard Slack got them and then ... just nothing. Was it a tech integration problem? A key team member leaving? Like what happened?
If you liked Screenhero you might like Pop https://pop.com/home > In 2013, I co-founded Screenhero, an app that enabled remote pair programming and made developer collaboration over the internet “better than being in the same room” (to quote our old slogan). https://pop.com/screenhero
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"Can I make a standalone Excel competitor and then claim Microsoft is anti-competitive for "bundling" Excel?" That's not a fair comparison. Imagine that there is no Excel, instead one awesome company making a standalone work sheet product that is widely popular. Next, Microsoft lags behind, comes up with a clone of it and bundles it for free as part of Office. That's anti-competitive.
In this case Microsoft had a chat app several years before Slack was created. Admittedly, it was rebranded and upgraded a few times - however Skype for Business had group chats before Teams came out.