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Post by tomflack »

eropple wrote: post #201
masklinn wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> True. Not even the ones made by Apple. Apple is probably the worst offender on that issue, in fact.

Huh? Apple offers 1366x768 in 11", 1440x900 in 13", and 1680x1050 in 15". The only comparable-and-better that I know of is the 1600x900 HP something-or-other. They aren't standouts (although the 15" at 1680x1050 is really nice), but they're no worse than anybody else. EDIT: I misread the original post. Sorry about that. That said, OS X isn't appreciably worse as far as resolution independence than the rest of your op…

He's not talking about resolutions provided (and my Vaio has a 1920x1080 15" display if you're looking for examples there) he's talking about support for different DPIs.

Windows 7/8 "kinda" work in this regard - I have to use accessibility addons in firefox to make it play nice, IE just stretches everything, I have no experience with OSX.

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Post by robomartin »

Why I will not be buying an iPad 3:

- Resolution: Who cares. - Camera: Who cares. - 4GLTE with a ridiculous price and cap. No thanks

I don't think there's anything really compelling about the iPad 3 for the masses. Sure, they'll sell a bunch of them, mainly because, well, that's what they are selling now.

Being on WiFi most of the time I don't see any motivation to get an iPad 3 over my iPad 2. Most of the time the iPad 2 is used to casually browse the web on the couch, play chess and mess around with other games. In none of these use cases has the iPad 2 screen resolution proven to be an issue at all.

Once usage becomes more serious iPad 2 goes on the shelf and I/we switch to computers. All of our home computers are equipped with a minimum of two 24inch 1920 x 1200 pixel screens. There is no way the iPad 2 or 3 experience can compete with this at any level.

I think Apple needs to fix the issue of carriers gouging customers for connectivity. We have four iPhones and two iPads. Why are we paying six fixed-cost, limited usage data plans when the devices are on WiFi most of the time? Why is it that we can't buy a "family" plan, if you will, and pay one fee for connectivity. That's what you do with DSL: You pay one amount for a data rate and it doesn't matter if you have one or fifteen computers attached to the service.

The next revolution in mobile might not come until the recurring costs involved in using these devices come under control.

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Post by warmfuzzykitten »

Xuzz wrote: post #3

Although the HN title (currently) says "Ipad 3", Apple seems to actually be calling it the new "iPad" (edit: "new iPad", not "New iPad"). It's a bit confusing: next year, is it then the "old iPad"? But, we don't really have that issue with many other Apple products (iPod nano, all Macs, etc) that use the same naming scheme. So we'll see how bad it actually ends up.

When you check out, it's referred to as iPad (3rd generation).

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by warmfuzzykitten »

Xuzz wrote: post #3

Although the HN title (currently) says "Ipad 3", Apple seems to actually be calling it the new "iPad" (edit: "new iPad", not "New iPad"). It's a bit confusing: next year, is it then the "old iPad"? But, we don't really have that issue with many other Apple products (iPod nano, all Macs, etc) that use the same naming scheme. So we'll see how bad it actually ends up.

When you check out, it's referred to as iPad (3rd generation).

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Post by robomartin »

Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

If you have two or more iPads, why do they make you pay multiple monthly fixed-price amounts for connectivity? This is even more ridiculous when you consider that most devices are probably on WiFi most of the time. So, you are paying $mm per month times N devices for, well, nothing.

It's time for these contracts to become more reasonable. Right now they border on being nothing more than theft. Imagine this: You pay AT&T for your DSL line and you also pay them for wireless access for your iPad. You are paying them twice but only using one of the pipes at any given time.

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Post by warmfuzzykitten »

Xuzz wrote: post #3

Although the HN title (currently) says "Ipad 3", Apple seems to actually be calling it the new "iPad" (edit: "new iPad", not "New iPad"). It's a bit confusing: next year, is it then the "old iPad"? But, we don't really have that issue with many other Apple products (iPod nano, all Macs, etc) that use the same naming scheme. So we'll see how bad it actually ends up.

When you check out, it's labeled "iPad (3d generation)".

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Post by duskwuff »

Gabler wrote: post #138
samstave wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly what happened to me after I bought a MyTouch 4G which allowed wifi hotspotting for my laptop. While I was not charged overage fees, my data rate was crippled to 57Kbps. The thing sits in the drawer and I NEVER use it because its useless. I am paying $100 a month for it. They want $400!!! to cancel it. Fuck these carriers.

When I see people complaining about being capped at 50kb/s speeds it makes me sad to live in New Zealand where our capped speeds are about 15kb/s at best.

Given the numbers, I suspect that the cap was 57(.6?) kilobits per second, not kilobytes. Same top speed as a dialup modem.

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Post by gnaffle »

eropple wrote: post #201
masklinn wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> True. Not even the ones made by Apple. Apple is probably the worst offender on that issue, in fact.

Huh? Apple offers 1366x768 in 11", 1440x900 in 13", and 1680x1050 in 15". The only comparable-and-better that I know of is the 1600x900 HP something-or-other. They aren't standouts (although the 15" at 1680x1050 is really nice), but they're no worse than anybody else. EDIT: I misread the original post. Sorry about that. That said, OS X isn't appreciably worse as far as resolution independence than the rest of your op…

HP offered a 1920x1200 display in some of their 15" laptops. And Apple lagged behind in screen resolution for years (when I bought my Mac, 1440x900 was the highest res 15" display they sold).

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Post by jcfrei »

I feel like apple is already slipping without steve jobs. calling the new ipad "the new ipad" certainly doesnt seem like a smart move (same goes with the iphone 4s - wouldnt you rather have an iphone 5?). and furthermore, there's again very little innovation in the device, the outside hasnt changed at all, albeit being a little thicker. just improving display resolution seems like a change most ipad2 users won't appreciate enough. I just feel like that apple is now just draining every penny from it's customers with small innovations and a huge brand - while still being unable to decide what to do with it's stockpiles of money.

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Post by ben1040 »

nextparadigms wrote: post #92
huggyface wrote: post #62

I have four Android smartphones and two tablets, but this is the first Apple product that has really opened my wallet. Literally, my wallet is sitting open. But their store keeps crashing and going back to the offline state. Called their phone sales and they couldn't help me because they use the online system to enter orders. :-) Ah well, I'll get one soon enough.

What is it about it that made you want it so much? There will be Android tablets with just as high or higher resolution very soon, and with stronger CPU's than the still dual core Cortex A9 chip in the iPad 3.

I preordered an iPad 3 and plan to sell my Galaxy Tab 10.1 as soon as the iPad shows up.

The integration with Google Talk and Gmail is a plus for Android, but Android on a tablet seems to still suck for usability otherwise. Additionally battery life sucks (some random app would occasionally just grab a wakelock and suck down battery to zero), and so does media management.

And after having an Android tablet for 10 months now, I still have yet to see apps for it that are as compelling as I've seen from day one on the iPad. Aside from Google's own apps, Android apps that actually take advantage of the tablet form factor (as opposed to just being smartphone apps that get stretched awkwardly to the giant screen) are few and far between.

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