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Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by 01100011 »

nateb2022 wrote: post #101
01100011 wrote: post #39

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I just performed fan-replacement surgery on the one I gave to my mom about 7 years ago. Still works great for her other than the fan that died. Not extremely easy to replace but not bad and it only cost about $15. I looked into replacing it but a quick search didn't turn up anything comparable for less than $500.

> I looked into replacing it but a quick search didn't turn up anything comparable for less than $500. Comparable in what way, size?

Size and performance.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by jeffhwang »

hiatus wrote: post #52
DesiLurker wrote: post #44

I call BS on them being not good market fit, Apple does totally fine with mac mini. also these are just laptops w/o screen and battery. IMO the real reason may be worries around minipcs finally getting good enough that they may cannibalize higher margin PC market. BTW there are other vendors like Beelink that make semi decent tiny computers and I have one of those as my teenage kids pc,works just fine.

> Apple does totally fine with mac mini How do you know this? I personally decided against a mini when I specced one out and a MBP wound up cheaper. The pricing strategy certainly made me _feel_ like they were pushing me away from the mini.

Assuming you have an external monitor already, one can get pretty nice deals on Mac minis. I paid less than $1500 for an Apple Silicon Mac mini and a similarly specc'd MBP cost something like $800-$1000 more. Later on, I can continue to upgrade by replacing with a newer Mini or Apple Studio at a lower price (and better cooling) than buying a new laptop.

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Post by toast0 »

gowld wrote: post #173
toast0 wrote: post #106

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Do we need Intel to release these, or can they just sell the chips to integrators like they do with other desktops and laptops?

Intel did it because, for 10 years now, integrators refused to.

I've got several small desktops based on Intel laptop cpus from the past ten years, none of which were put together by Intel.

Lots of products here: https://liliputing.com/tag/mini-pc/

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Post by plagiarist »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #108
jwells89 wrote: post #65

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Depending on situation, the way NUCs typically needed external power bricks also made them less attractive. Mac minis aren't as small no, but the size difference for having the PSU be internal is minimal and it eases power strip woes.

Price aside, the power brick was always a huge annoyance that kept me from getting one. Now that usbc gan chargers can hit 100W, I keep hoping for a mini pc option that runs a ~65W class CPU with integrated GPU on a non proprietary charger.

This would be incredible. Multiple USB-C ports would be nice as well.

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Post by giantrobot »

windexh8er wrote: post #187
nextos wrote: post #161

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Sad news. NUCs could have been an excellent platform if they had tried to work a bit more on cooling. On third-party cases, NUCs were great. But on stock cases, some models were too noisy. Still, they provided great value. Nonetheless, I agree it's better for Intel to focus on their core business and leave this market to others. Some niche PC makers such as Cirrus7 offer great NUC-like systems.

NUC, depending on the model, had decent cooling. I've owned a few of them over the years. My Skull Canyon having been my longest desktop computer ever and always had great Linux support. Funny enough the fan on that unit was recalled and Intel happily replaced it well out of warranty. But with the advent of Minisforum, Beelink and all the other random options on AliExpress I would gather it's been getting harder and…

> But with the advent of Minisforum, Beelink and all the other random options on AliExpress I would gather it's been getting harder and harder to command a premium price because it says Intel on the box.

It was my impression the NUC sold by Intel was always meant to be a proof of concept for the NUC-class device to inspire third parties to make them. Intel getting out of the market now that it's proven sort of makes sense.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by jzb »

DesiLurker wrote: post #44

I call BS on them being not good market fit, Apple does totally fine with mac mini. also these are just laptops w/o screen and battery. IMO the real reason may be worries around minipcs finally getting good enough that they may cannibalize higher margin PC market. BTW there are other vendors like Beelink that make semi decent tiny computers and I have one of those as my teenage kids pc,works just fine.

I’ve got two AMD based Beelink boxen. They’re fantastic and at the right price. I hope Intel exiting this market doesn’t mean others will.
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