Live data from Hacker News

Goodreads has no incentive to be good

countercraft.substack.com

211–220 of 245 posts

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#211
post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Goodreads is only good (eh, decent?) as a database of books you've read. All the other functionality is pointless and or broken. Why would you need a service to keep track on what you read? I have a text file with a list of book and some notes about every book. Works perfectly for me.

Why would you need a list at all? If it's worth remembering, you'll remember you've read it, and if you want to refresh your memory what better than to reread?

I don't keep a list of books that I read for exactly this reason. But the drawback is that I have a few nordic detective stories on my bookshelf and I don't remember which of them I read already.

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#212
post #37

I'll mention https://shepherd.com/ which has an interesting feature: 8,000+ authors have shared five of their favorite books around a topic, theme, or mood. We make it easy to find the books they recommend through a book you already love, an author you adore, or a Wikipedia topic that interests you.

Fivebooks.com seems better, some of their book lists are really in depth, from people who seems to know their specific topics.

Like check the fivebooks list on the history of modern Greece: a really interesting, enlightening list:

https://fivebooks.com/best-books/christos-chomenidis-real-gr...

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#213
post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

personally, having a list of books helps me keep up the reading habit. usually I have months of reading, followed by months of not touching a book. having a list in notion reminds me to continue. in addition having a list of books I want to read (ghost library in japanese?) reminds of the things I don't know yet or haven't read which in turn helps keeping the reading habits.

Thank you for the response. A list of prospective books to read is something I believe everyone should have. It was the list of books already read that didn't make sense. I hadn't considered it as a motivator to pick back up the habit.

You may also simply have much better memory of author names and works titles than I or others have. I often can't quote a name on the spot even when I vividly remember the book (or movie, or track). Or be much earlier in your reading career.

For me these lists (which I regret starting far too late in my own reading career) now cover about 9000 items.

For me the prompt to starting the process was noticing that I was again and again giving a chance to really terrible authors. That had to stop. And it did.

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. I was so frustrated at how bad the book Atomic Habits was, (in comparison to Power of Habit). It felt like some 20 year old was explaining how to life a good life with all the experience 20 year olds have. Lots of idealistic ways to organize things. Lots of mental gymnastics to supposedly make you more productive. I did like the 'improve yourself 1% a day', but I did that with a spin bike and quickly got…

You might enjoy the podcast If Books Could Kill : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/atomic-habits/id165187...

I listened to it. Oof it hurt for a second time. Good to hear it get a nice dress down.

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#215
post #10

Goodreads is only good (eh, decent?) as a database of books you've read. All the other functionality is pointless and or broken. The recommendation system is a joke and is obviously used to promote nonsense instead of giving you personalised recommendations.

For me, it's more of a database to keep track of books I want to read in the future . I can't read everything immediately after reading a recommendation or seeing it mentioned somewhere. Mostly I use goodreads to organize this list. It ends up getting into the "read" list after, but that part isn't as important. And when I am approaching an empty stack of books to read, I go on there and try to pop from the top of th…

it's more of a database to keep track of books I want to read in the future.

I use a notepad.

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#216
post #81

I anything actually good anymore? - Goodreads: Broken recommendation system, meh UI, review wars - Google Search: Pointless - Reddit: Overtly user-hostile, poor UX, tiktokified - YouTube: Mainstream, ad-riddled, tiktokified - Yelp: Cluttered-UI, favors jerks, hostile to businesses - Gmail: Oh yeah we're gonna delete your emails if you don't log in after a while - Netflix: Shrinking catalogue, worse quality shows - In…

Absolutely. May I add one more? - Hacker News: filled with old ~men~ people shouting at clouds, reminiscing about how things were better in the good old days.

The good old days like yesterday, when ad blockers worked on Youtube, and you could read through Twitter anonymously.

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you don't just track books you've read, you also track books you want to read, which is much harder to remember. I also tag them to indicate if I already own them and in what format (physical, epub, audio). Saves me from purchasing duplicates when I'm at the used book store.

> you also track books you want to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundoku I know exactly what books I want to read.

I am into my first thousand books. If I have a queue of 10-20 already purchased (garage, deals, new, offers) and someone recommends a book somewhere such as HN, I add it.

I don't think tracking books you want to read is Tsundoku.

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#218
IMO, the thing Goodreads has that nobody else is automatic updates from a Kindle. When I finish a book on my Kindle, Goodreads automatically tracks it. It doesn't seem possible for Story Graph or Bookwyrm or Librarything or any of these others to do that, which means I have to manually curate my list of books I've read and want to read.

Right now, my process is this: 1) buy a book, 2) read it, 3) my friends can see that I read it and left a star rating.

I think this makes a pretty hard barrier to entry in this market, because I read 99.9% of the time on my Kindle, and I'm lazy. :)

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#219
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why people like it so much. My aunt-in-law is high pressuring me to use it. I have my library listing all the books I checked out. I have a pdf/epub reader that has a history of the books I read(although a new phone will probably wipe that out). For a while, I was merely writing down my books in a dedicated notebook, but I realized that it didn't really matter, if a book was important, I remembered it. I…

I use a Google Sheet for the neighborhood book club list. It is handy for reference--did we read X , and if so, who picked it? The group has been going for something like 18 years, after which even the very good and the very bad can be forgotten.

Would you consider sharing the sheet? I am always looking for books!

Re: Goodreads has no incentive to be good

#220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm off all drugs, I can quit social media whenever I want(I'm only back because of LLMs), I quit video games, I made my evenings productive instead of hedonistic. Good god, how scary. Thanks for the warning!

Not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but I completely agree. Productivity hacking culture needs to die a painful death. Life is about so much more than just maximizing output...

Life is about identifying your values and finding ways to work towards those values. If he does that with productive evenings instead of watching TV, I am sure that gives him purpose and makes him happy.
Post reply on HN