Exercise makes me irritable and miserable. I've tried large amounts and medium amounts, obvs small amounts are included in daily life. My kids are similarly effected. One size does not fit all.
A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression
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#212Exercise just makes me feel worse. Junk food makes me feel integrated, whole, and calm. My body fucking hates me.
same here
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#2132.5 hours a week is insanely low for any young person in good health. I'm positive that at least 8-12 hours of determined, physically intensive training compared to a measly 2.5 hours of "exercise" per week will do a hell of a lot better for anyone's mental health than treating the usage of one's body as somehow secondary to the "knowledge based" work we're all forced to do to make a decent living in modern society.
At one stage of my life I was running 10k every other day for months at a time. I was miserable. Also irritable.
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#214I walk to the store when it's reasonable. I wasn't top tier at it, but the most exercise I could tolerate was playing DDR, because there was a game to it that isn't just physical activity. These kinds of articles are always annoying because it invites a certain kind of person who will gush unendingly about how great exerting yourself is. For me, exerting myself sucks, it is only something I want to do when it's attac…
Meh, exercise is up to you to do it. Once convinced that there are benefits, I don’t know what other message you need beyond finding something that works for you.
This complaint reminds me of someone digging into a bowl of ice cream and going “still waiting for someone to convince me to eat healthy on MY terms.”
Your comment is contrarian since you presumably agree that there are benefits of exercise. Maybe you’re trying to convince yourself that your level or exertion is enough?
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone tells you about something that absolutely commands their total attention. It's of very little consequence to you. You suggest they try something /obvious/. It's reasonable to assume they might have considered it. How is that going to be perceived positively as a suggestion? Do you think it possible? For someone with major depression, maybe it's like suffering from major arterial bleeding and we suggest an ban…
My direct experience with depression was that escaping it required a combination of the right events at the right time to create an upward cycle. For me it was fixing a shower by myself that started that upward cycle. For someone else it could be a single exercise session that leads to it. It's always worth a try to encourage someone to take that first step.
This is a great comment as it reflects the situation quite well.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
That question doesn't even make sense, and I don't understand your reference to the western world. All points in my body are equally part of 'me'.
Try to think of it this way… if we had brain transplant technology and you swapped brains with someone so that your brain ended up in their body and their brain in your body… which one do you think would be you ? I’m not sure there’s any clear answer to this as it touches on so many known and unknown unknowns. But, the assertion is that there most people (especially in western intellectual traditions) would consider…
Neither? "Me" consists of both body and brain, so unless you could find an identical body somehow, neither resulting person would be "me".
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#217When I was less wise, I remember suggesting exercise to someone suffering from depression. Didn't go so well. You reach an unfortunate point when depressed that makes it difficult to listen to actually useful advice. It's an unfortunate state of mind to say the least.
The problem with advice is that it comes from someone in a different position. The depressed person might not be able to actually perform the suggestion due to lack of energy or other factors.
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#2182.5 hours a week is insanely low for any young person in good health. I'm positive that at least 8-12 hours of determined, physically intensive training compared to a measly 2.5 hours of "exercise" per week will do a hell of a lot better for anyone's mental health than treating the usage of one's body as somehow secondary to the "knowledge based" work we're all forced to do to make a decent living in modern society.
At one stage of my life I was running 10k every other day for months at a time. I was miserable. Also irritable.
Maybe not getting enough rest might have offset the positive factors?
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#219I’ve had major clinical depression for the last 15 years or so. The first 4 months of this year was the lowest I’ve ever been. During that time though I was going to the gym 6 days a week doing weight lifting and then I would cycle 50km a day on top of that. All of it was on autopilot however, my depression just wouldn’t allow me to focus on anything but it. Luckily I had been building up the habit for years in advan…
I think the only people who think exercise solves depression are those that have never suffered clinical depression. Dopamine from exercise is pretty much a temporary relief. Just like drinking, smoking, or binging netflix - they provide temporary relief and let us ignore the root problems.
Therapy is what finally taught me how to actually process my thoughts and feelings, and let me make real progress against depression.
And now, when I go for an outside run or walk, I can spend that time focusing purely purely on my internal thoughts/feelings. Done like this, exercise can be a great therapeutic activity - but it's not the dopamine or act of exercise itself, it's creating the time for self-therapy.
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#220I don’t know if this has changed for younger generations, but a lot of people, particularly those in intellectual pursuits, suffer to one degree or another from thinking of themselves as a brain being carried around as a meat sack. We are learning more about mind body connections and this is very not true (the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfun…
> the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfunctions that are five times worse What are some examples of this?
Also breathing with a constant, calm rhythm to switch the brain from panic/anxiety mode into coherent thought.