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Next up, getting rid of comment trees.

What's a good alternative when more than a few people are involved in the conversation?

TikTok and Instagram both limit comments to a single layer of "answering".

I guess that's a "good" alternative if your goal is to prevent the evolution of deep discussion and instead get people to move on and scroll over more ads.

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> reddit answers are often not great, but in my experience, the rest of google search has, over the past 10 years, gone to complete and utter shit. Fascinating. I've read so many comments here about how people search reddit specifically in order to get better results, but I've never understood this. I don't find reddit to be better enough for that sort of thing to be worth going to reddit as a first choice. Perhaps t…

It really depends what you're looking for answers to. If you're looking for more trustworthy product reviews than the ones on an Amazon product page, or you're looking for how to fix an obscure problem with your 3d printer, it's damn reliable. Having the opportunity for open and anonymous conversation on these things increases the chance of meaningful discussion. For the former, Google search results are a hodge podg…

> If you're looking for more trustworthy product reviews than the ones on an Amazon product page

I totally believe that! But since I personally don't look for product reviews on the internet at all (and absolutely wouldn't look on Amazon), I wouldn't really know.

All I'm saying is that for the sorts of things I tend to search for, anyway, finding good resources on the web isn't that hard, so I never really understood why people prefer to search reddit (unless they already are reddit users anyway, of course).

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Reddit literally will not function without the gargantuan amount of mod labor they get for free.

Maybe they don't need to. Maybe Reddit realized they can make "dead Internet theory" a reality, for profit. Why not embrace the "subreddit simulator" meme and simply make users argue with GPT-X, trained on previous Reddit posts? No moderation required — every user is corralled into a tiny bubble, perhaps consisting of a single real person, all while consuming ads.

I wish that hypothetical was something that could be criminally prosecuted.

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All you have to do is look at what every other social media platform has done, which is devolve into an infinite scroll of the following: - Kitty/puppy videos - Exotic street food - girls with shorts/leggings showing buttcrack or cameltoe acting oblivious or holding a product (i.e. using ambiguous sexuality to sell something) - Someone doing some kind of weird elaborate craft as a form of spectacle - Twerking or faux…

You forgot: - million dollars mansions tours - asking strangers in the street how much is their rent or what's their salary - asking strangers in the street to do X for money (e.g. do 10 pull ups for $100) - tourism videos in "dangerous" places such as South America, Africa, Middle Orient, East Europe, Asia (i.e. everywhere not in NA and West Europe) - silent walking/driving 4K videos in Japan/China/South Korea - "on…

-A stickman comic which just has the stickman saying something people on reddit agree with instead of a joke

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post #185

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If there was a clear successor existing with a team that could scale fast, there wouldn't be a Reddit strike but a Reddit exodus. Lemmy and other garbage is not it...

So, dumb question incoming: How hard would it be to make a thing with the same API as Reddit so the apps that are currently about to shut down can instead change base domain and keep going? Including existing OSS servers, assuming there already is some (complete!) open source one somewhere — I can google for the attempts ("plebbit" was submitted here for discussion only last week) but I can't trivially tell if they'r…

Probably not hard to write an adapter at all. But it's not the API that made these apps popular and appealing. It's the Reddit community. The apps would write their own adapters if there was an alternative social media website with this community.

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> The last thing that bugs me is peoples claims the new mods (if chosen by reddit employees) wont be as high quality as the previous ones. No one has ever proven the current moderation teams are any good. There is some competition between subreddits for attention, and a bad mod team can cause a subreddit to lose that competition (including to subreddits on different subjects), so there is some amount of successful co…

Don't forget the epic story of the fall of r/worldpolitics and the rise of r/anime_titties as its replacement.

So, um, storytime?

(I'm unfamiliar with this.)

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It's not clear to me the Reddit users will be permanently gone either, unless there's some place like Reddit taking in a lot more users right now. But I haven't heard of any place like that so far. No real competitor for users to jump ship towards.

Or maybe people will realize they were not happy with the amount of time they were spending on Reddit and go habituate themselves to something completely different with that time.

Those folks are likely going back to Facebook/IG/Twitter/TikTok etc.

If they're craving content and don't want to spend the time going to distinct sites, they're likely not going to all of a sudden pick up a new hobby. I hope I'm wrong.

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post #19

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This tracks exactly with what I've noticed. r/fragrance for example decided to stay open, but the mods just would quit doing anything. That'll show us! What happened: no spam. A few silly posts. A lot of good posts. A lot of people remarking how much better the sub is without mods. Mods returned, promising to 'consider community feedback' once they realized they lost control of the narrative.

That's only in the short term. Long term, we've seen what happens to unmoderated discussions: spam, (child) porn, violent/illegal images, and more. The worst humanity has to offer. It's like taking your hands off the wheel when driving. A few seconds and you're probably okay. An hour? You're in a ditch!

I suspect that Reddit's own automated systems catch a lot of that. There are strong indicators of that type of spam.

I moderate a few small, and mostly inactive, subs. They don't see a whole lot of activity.

On the odd moments I do drop into mod mode (a few times a year, if that), what I see is a fair bit of flagged spam ... and a lot of off-topic posts. One sub in particular seems to have had its topic (a software application of use to Google+ users saving data, which was last relevant on 1 April 2019) with an exam of some sort in India.

Topic drift, relevance drift, and lightweight content displacing substantive posts are far more likely without dedicated, mission-aware mods. AskScience and AskHistorians would be most especially subject to that, as well known examples. I can think of numerous others.

The other issue would be various forms of abuse and brigading, below the thresholds which Reddit's automated systems would detect. Unmoderated forums would far more likely become unpleasant places to participate.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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> Unfortunately, discussions of Reddit-like fediverse services Lemmy and Kbin on Reddit were colored by paranoia after the company banned users and subreddits related to these projects (reportedly due to “spam”). While these accounts and subreddits have been reinstated

All have definitely not been reinstated. They banned my 13 year old account without warning because I dared to make an alternative API for Reddit[1]. Even after agreeing to suspend the service they are still yet to unban my account.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are others in the same boat.

1 - https://api.reddiw.com

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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It's not clear to me the Reddit users will be permanently gone either, unless there's some place like Reddit taking in a lot more users right now. But I haven't heard of any place like that so far. No real competitor for users to jump ship towards.

Or maybe people will realize they were not happy with the amount of time they were spending on Reddit and go habituate themselves to something completely different with that time.

That was always allowed.

And yet, very many people are terminally online in one way or another. Even if the term "terminally online" has very strong stigma and most people would not consider to be a part of that group, they still spend hours every day on social media, and have no means of quitting it even knowing the harmful effects.

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