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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by bilalq »

brookst wrote: post #106
Drunk_Engineer wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation.

It's sending URL's, and it's not clear if it is also sending cookies or other auth info. I would think / hope that any images covered by HIPAA would not be leakable by URL alone.

I don't know HIPAA specifics off-hand, but I would not be the least bit surprised if ephemeral pre-signed urls get generated for sharing HIPAA protected assets based on cookies/auth. If the URL is live for a time window and doesn't insta-expire on refresh, then it's conceivable that data gets leaked here.

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Post by 4BynHmBFUxBD »

hospitalJail wrote: post #114
IgorPartola wrote: post #68

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Reminder that MS owns GitHub, LinkedIn, and Mojang.

>Mojang The real danger. (almost unironically though) I can switch OS, Office is almost obsolete with google + free stuff, their browser/software is terrible and never used, Github(yikes, well, git works..), LinkedIn(and nothing of value was lost). So we really are at the whim of M$ when it comes to Github and Minecraft. Scary. But hey, I used to be obsessed with Nintendo games, and now people have Zelda clones so I…

>Office is almost obsolete with google + free stuff

Google is also a privacy nightmare tho...

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by deelowe »

hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

Is pass-through good enough on modern hardware where I can just run a windows VM for gaming and then shutdown windows when I'm done? This would be the ideal scenario for me. I applaud Valve's efforts with proton, but I think Microsoft will start pushing back. I bet starfield will be very difficult to run well in Linux, for example.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by autoexec »

silverbax88 wrote: post #107
Melting_Harps wrote: post #73

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> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. Today? Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them? I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere…

I've been railing about all the spying Microsoft Teams is doing across corporate networks for the last year or so, to nothing but shrugs, 'I'm sure Microsoft isn't using our business data' or similar responses. People never learn.

Never mind teams, imagine what kind of data Office gives them. Every email, every word doc, and every excel document created by nearly every company on the globe is theirs to pick through! It must provide insane levels of insight into what most companies (even those that compete with MS) are doing.

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Post by ss48 »

BasedAnon wrote: post #185
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #105

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When my job starts supporting that?

Unless you're struggling for money, would you seriously consider a job that expects you to be watched constantly by strangers?

If it's a work computer, I expect nothing less. Since remote work, there is a lot more invasive tracking software used by companies, often owned by third parties. If I want to browse anything personal, I would do it with a phone.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/podcasts/the-daily/workpl...

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Post by hospitalJail »

bombcar wrote: post #192
hospitalJail wrote: post #119

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Try talking to healthcare workers too. They think there is some magic about faxes. >They are so fast(no they arent, something can be ahead of them) >They are safe compared to email(literally anyone can walk by the fax and take it) >They are faster than a phone call, because doctors don't pick up the phone. (What...) You can mention the US government has ultra high security communication that uses the internet, you ca…

To be fair to them, how many fax breaches have you heard about compared to email/website breaches?

I know 3 people off the top of my head that have gotten in trouble for looking up people's health information because it was physically stored on premises.

All 3 still work in the medical field to this day, one of them is a doctor...

I imagine this is a huge issue in the medical field.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by V__ »

BasedAnon wrote: post #93

When are people going to grow a backbone and switch to Linux? It's kind of hard to feel sorry for tech-literate Windows users

Different people will have different reasons, but if you are curious, these are mine (I'm generalizing a bit):

* I don't want to use the terminal at all if possible. Not to configure my OS, not to do basic stuff which Win can do with a few clicks. I'm in awe how fast and efficient some people are with it, but if I need it at most once or twice a day, it's a nuisance.

* No binaries. I don't want to compile software ever.

* Packages and dependencies.

* Game compatibility. But apparently not for much longer.

* The problems I have with Win10 have been solved by running a debloater once after installing it.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by jodrellblank »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #73
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. Today? Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them? I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere…

> is that M$

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/07/22/m

21 years ago: "It is difficult enough already to engage Gabriel in a discussion of security or Digital Rights Management, and spelling Microsoft M-dollar sign is probably the best way I can think of to get your mail deleted. He might even have a rule that does it now, I haven't asked. When Ross Anderson penned his now famous Palladium FAQ, which reads somewhere between a toaster manual and grim speculative fiction, you will note that he never deploys the dollar sign, because he would like to be taken seriously."

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by autoexec »

I love the options they give you to "disable" this.

There's a toggle for "Enhance images for all sites" which if enabled gives them the URL of every image you view, but if you disable that, you're still allowing MS to "Enhance" images and collect data on some sites. MS could for example still collect data on every other image you see. Then MS gives you boxes where you can enter the sites you don't want them to enhance images on, which I'm sure they collect via telemetry anyway.

What's missing, and actually needed to prevent data collection, is a "Do NOT enhance images for ANY site" option which MS does not provide.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by dunham »

belter wrote: post #165
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

Install Office, use an App that tracks bandwidth use, uploads and downloads, PER app, and be amazed with how many MB/s of data Office sends to Microsoft.

Yeah, I switched to the web version of outlook when I noticed (via little snitch) that the desktop app was sending 100's of MB upstream. No idea why it'd need to send much of anything in that direction.
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