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Post by TX81Z »

andremedeiros wrote: post #127
that_guy_iain wrote: post #16

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> A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time — a balance between something that works and something that was cost effective for Christian. The way…

The Reddit API usage is as efficient as it can be, server wise, although I’d like to be proven wrong by them. As far as the app goes, an average of ~330 reqs/user/day is pretty good, considering they built the platform budgeting for 86,400.

Yeah, every time I see that number trotted out I’m just like “and the point is…?”

If there’s an issue with the cost to process that many calls I’m much more suspicious of inefficiency on the API side than the client. Those numbers seem very reasonable.

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Post by paulmd »

ziftface wrote: post #143
soraminazuki wrote: post #117

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I don't think there's anything Reddit could do at this point to not let it be a PR disaster. That includes changing their stance. What they're doing is so egregious, naming and shaming and lying about people who brought immense value to the community for years. All out of misguided greed.

I was talking with a friend about this the other day and he brought up a good point. If you were about to IPO as a company, this is not a bad decision from a business standpoint (cut costs, bring as many users as possible under your control). Obviously the way they executed the decision could be harmful to them, but based on the pressures they're under, I can't see how you could blame them too much. Which is why the…

> If you were about to IPO as a company, this is not a bad decision from a business standpoint (cut costs, bring as many users as possible under your control).

the parallel for traditional companies is choosing to bust unions, and a month before you IPO is an absolutely terrible time to choose to bust your union unless you're absolutely 100% sure you're immune to a "strike".

in this case it's not just picking a fight with powerful stakeholders (like mods) but also turning off features that a ton of users interact with the platform via, and trying to force everyone off third-party clients onto the new experience and native app. In this model the users are a stakeholder that you're picking a fight with at the same time.

the best time to do it is 20 years ago, the second best time is today, unless today is a month before you IPO.

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

the_lonely_road wrote: post #121
toyg wrote: post #14

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Personally, when someone mentions tweets nowadays, my first impulse is to ridicule / discount it all - "what, are you seriously using a service Elon bought to promote far-right topics...?" Typically it comes out of my mouth in a more moderate stance, like "sorry, I don't use Twitter anymore. Any chance you could link a better forum?"

The most charitable reading of your comment still leads one to question what you would consider the right if Elon is far right. I am pretty sure he is a moderate leaning both ways on differing topics.

He is for sure far right. He's against increasing taxes on the wealthy, vowed to lobby against transgender health care, endorsed Republicans in the midterms, launched Desantis's campaign, and constantly rails against woke culture. There is not an ounce of left in this guys body.

I seriously question the motives of people saying this guy is a "moderate." You cannot gaslight America into thinking the far-right is middle of the road.

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Post by hospitalJail »

rootusrootus wrote: post #172
hospitalJail wrote: post #71

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When they removed the upvote/downvote count, it was clear reddit was fine with manipulation. Anything I read on the website has been met with extreme skepticism since it very well could be an astroturfer. It's money. Reddit wants astroturfers, it grows their platform and helps sell ads.

> Anything I read on the website has been met with extreme skepticism since it very well could be an astroturfer. Good advice for any site. It's not like HN is immune to astroturfing.

You have more courage than me to say that here.

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Post by graypegg »

carlmcqueen wrote: post #130
andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

Having to ask people be kind about your code on HN is such a shame of reality to me. Half of brilliance is having your working version, used by many people. You had working code that brought reddit to so many reddit users every day that was better than what the official app of reddit provided. Some of the 'code' running massively profitable departments in finance are spreadsheets, on shared drives, with thousands of…

I would love if we all agreed to value the joy of building on here. Not saying it needs to be nauseating positive, but just a default expectation of comments like “wow! This is cool, here are some things I might have done differently”

Show HN is always really close to to that ideal. One of the reasons I like this place.

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Post by mostlysimilar »

Engineering-MD wrote: post #146
tester457 wrote: post #97

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Have you seen Tildes? - incredible moderation and respectful community - you can't sort by controversial - non-profit, no investors can corrupt it - beautifully simple UI, better than old.reddit on mobile - fast and not decentralized - no images just text - open source - The site is the main mobile interface, not an app - No limits to logged-out browsing - Completely functional for browsing without javascript - Zero…

I’m interested in trying it. Do you have an invite link by any chance?

I can send you an invite if you put a means of communication on your profile for me to reach out to.

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Post by gabereiser »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #191
411111111111111 wrote: post #171

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No, that's just wrong. It's totally fine to put scrappy code up to get a product going, but that time has long since passed if you're already at a scale to have dedicated managers. At that point you're likely going to cause more damage to the brand/corp with the half-assed implementation then the value you're providing with said code.

This. A thousand times this. I work on a household-name product with millions of users. It works pretty well most of the time but also has frequent outages, bugs, and usability issues, during which times the 1-star reviews pile up. By far our biggest problems are: 1. Leadership at the time just wanted an MVP, and they wanted it yesterday. 2. Leadership now believes "You don't need more people, and rewrites are a wast…

Those are indeed leadership failings. After-market processes should be put in place to ensure quality. If that means slowing the cadence of releases, fine, so long as the value delivered is there. If you have millions of users, it sounds like it is. In which case my point about just getting it out the door isn’t applicable.

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Post by spiffytech »

CincinnatiMan wrote: post #207
hospitalJail wrote: post #71

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When they removed the upvote/downvote count, it was clear reddit was fine with manipulation. Anything I read on the website has been met with extreme skepticism since it very well could be an astroturfer. It's money. Reddit wants astroturfers, it grows their platform and helps sell ads.

May not even need to be an astroturfer, it could be u/spez directly. Don’t forget that he went rogue and modified a user’s comment in the Reddit database!

Or that the Reddit founders used fake users to make the young site look busy:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/reddi...

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Post by DANmode »

jarym wrote: post #125
doublerabbit wrote: post #59

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All rights reserved feels more the right kick to me Gives those who wish to learn and stops from anything taking the future glory.

Agree, would be awful if Reddit themselves just decide to lift and reuse this!

Just add them as a specific exception to whatever license you use, if that's your wish.
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