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Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't been able to find the comment again, but I am 95% certain he admitted to editing the production DB long before this incident. I think it was an IAMA with kn0thing, where they admitted something along the lines of editing the DB to fix typos in titles. Not quite as bad, but no surprise he continued the behavior.

https://old.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5frg1n/tifu_...

That's it, thanks!

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#212

I still don't understand why the user flow can't be: 1. Download Apollo 2. Go to Reddit.com 3. Open your user settings 4. Generate a client_id and client_secret 5. Paste that into these two places in Apollo 6. There you go Sure it's not strictly to OAuth2, but it's going to work just fine, right?

Because Reddit wants you to enter an agreement with them for the API, so you need to submit a request to get an API key for those client_ids.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#214

Apollo is such an incredibly high quality app — in fact, it’s so good that I haven’t had it installed on my phone in a couple of years because when I have it I spend way too much time on Reddit. The features, the polish, the customizability — everything about it is really top notch.

I had never heard of it before this. Could he just make a backend for it and take his users with him?

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Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#215
Do you guys really expect a for profit company to offer free API access to 3rd parties, that offer a better experience with no ads, bypassing their revenue stream, and making their own site and apps look terrible in comparison?

I've always been shocked Reddit allowed this at all. No other major player that owns a platform- FB, instagram, Google, etc. offers this either.

I don't like it either but it makes perfect sense. You could even make the argument that not doing this would mean Reddit employees aren't doing their jobs, and aren't looking out for the company.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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I am done with Reddit.

What’s the next thing?

For me, both Twitter & Reddit require a not-inconsiderable effort to extract value while ignoring/digesting the annoyances.

Maybe fewer global social platforms and less time spent on them will do a lot of people more good.

I'm guessing Reddit gets less global and ubiquitous, in the same way Twitter is more of a slice of a niche crowd now too. Maybe that's okay.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Don't be evil" is simply impossible for large corporations I see Patagonia as the antithesis of this broadly accepted assertion. It's possible, it just takes having a goal for your company that's more than greed.

Isn’t Patagonia privately owned though?

That's the thing. A privately owned company can keep its morals if it has them, because the owners don't answer to anyone else. But as soon as a company accepts Venture Capital funding, or goes public, morals go out the window. The original owners no longer have control, and can't decide what the goal of the company is anymore. The goal is now to make money in whatever method is possible.

Remember this whenever you see founders say that they didn't betray their original agreements. They betrayed those agreements as soon as they accepted VC funding or public trading, because that's when they agreed to lose control of the direction of the company.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#219
As the saying goes - never rely on someone else's platform for your livelihood. This was always bound to happen and it was just a matter of time. Reddit needs to eliminate all third party clients that block their ads and siphon potential ad revenue in order to be financially attractive to investors.

For the Redditors that laughed and criticized Twitter when they capped user counts in third party apps and raised their API usage fees, karma was waiting with patience to return the favor.

I view what Reddit did as an opportunity. Even though Mastodon was a spectacular failure, I could see a Reddit alternative that uses the federated model that Mastodon does.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#220

This makes me indescribably sad. Apart from mourning the loss of a fantastic app by an awesome developer, to me it signals the end of a golden era of small indie client only apps. Since the APIs for the likes of reddit, twitter (RIP tweetbot) and others were available for free or a reasonable fee it spawned a whole cottage industry of developers who made a living selling alternate front ends for these services. These…

If the web collectively swings back in the other direction, to the fediverse or some other evolution, there will be a revival of small indie clients, and a revival of a better web in general. Twitter is in freefall and Reddit is on the verge of it, so it might not be a long wait.
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