How do you forcefully eject an ineffective "CEO" of a nonprofit from their position when they have failed their duties and violated their org's charter/mission while giving themself unjustified pay-raises and bonuses? Is there any gov process we can invoke to hold them accountable?
Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
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Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#212I've never seen this on my machine. Been using FF exclusively for years.
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
The execution was definitely terrible, but "browser company ships promotional easter egg" isn't that bad as "browser company inserts ads into browsing experience" in my opinion. These ads are why Windows 10+ has become a trash fire despite all the technical improvements made to Windows. Mozilla were stupid enough to try and sneak this Roboto stuff in, probably as part of the requirements or intentions of the ad campa…
The thing is, if I was somewhat interested in a Mozilla VPN service, this spectacularly idiotic decision to deploy full-page intrusive advertising into Firefox makes it 100% certain I will never buy the Mozilla VPN service--because, how can I trust that they won't do the equivalent to that service? What's to stop them from blocking certain sites (on the other side of the VPN) as part of some promotion? Or worse? They…
I see what you're saying but.. it's one popup.
Maybe you can't, but I can live with that.
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The execution was definitely terrible, but "browser company ships promotional easter egg" isn't that bad as "browser company inserts ads into browsing experience" in my opinion. These ads are why Windows 10+ has become a trash fire despite all the technical improvements made to Windows. I'm not sure I agree. The Mr. Robot "promotional easter egg" was done by installing an add-on via the Shield Study system. This sy…
They could have hard coded it, would that have been better or worse in your view?
Hmm...if you mean, would it be better or worse if they distributed the Looking Glass add-on in an automatically installed update, I think that would be...roughly equivalent? I feel like they're breaking some sort of implicit social contract: my browser shouldn't automatically install add-on software not foundational to its operation that I didn't ask for.
If you mean would it be better or worse if they did a more traditional pop-up ad promotion for Mr. Robot like they did for their VPN service...I dunno, unfortunately I've grown to expect new Firefox releases to have found excuses for promoting Mozilla services, even though I've done a fair amount of work to try to disable all that nonsense.
At the end of the day, it's all pretty gross really. What I'd really like is a way to pay Mozilla actual money in a way that ensured it was directed solely at development of Firefox in exchange for not doing any of this stuff to me. But for some reason this doesn't seem possible.
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#215So, what do people think of Vivaldi? I'm a long-time Firefox user but I've been scanning for a new browser for a while now. Even if it weren't for stuff like this, I'll have to change anyway when Firefox dips below ~3% and websites stop supporting Gecko.
I use it as main browser for the last 7 years I believe. And honestly - I love it. It have some gimmicks - sometime its slow a bit, sometime there some bugs that you have to wait for fix in the new version, but amount of customizability is a thing that overcome any issues.
With Vivaldi I can be sure that my preference will not be removed in the next version as unnecessary or as not popular enough. And there a LOT of preferences to customize as you want.
So, I personally, love it. Again, its not perfect with performance and bug minor happens, but for me its ok. I prefer the feeling that I decide what browser will do and how it feels. Not some corp.
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, because Brave is the model of ethics! Oh, wait a sec...
> Yes, because Brave is the model of ethics! Oh, wait a sec... Short answer: Well, compared to FF and the fine article that we are commenting on ... yes, it's certainly a model that FF could adopt! Long answer: I don't see ads in Brave. I don't recall even installing any third parties to block ads. As far as the adtech space goes, Brave is indeed more ethical than FF (or Chrome, or Edge). Now if you are of the view t…
What are you talking about? There are ads on new tabs even if you configure it to just be a blank page!
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
The execution was definitely terrible, but "browser company ships promotional easter egg" isn't that bad as "browser company inserts ads into browsing experience" in my opinion. These ads are why Windows 10+ has become a trash fire despite all the technical improvements made to Windows. Mozilla were stupid enough to try and sneak this Roboto stuff in, probably as part of the requirements or intentions of the ad campa…
The thing is, if I was somewhat interested in a Mozilla VPN service, this spectacularly idiotic decision to deploy full-page intrusive advertising into Firefox makes it 100% certain I will never buy the Mozilla VPN service--because, how can I trust that they won't do the equivalent to that service? What's to stop them from blocking certain sites (on the other side of the VPN) as part of some promotion? Or worse? They…
Isn't the Mozilla VPN service just a white label of Mullvad? They don't own it
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is, if I was somewhat interested in a Mozilla VPN service, this spectacularly idiotic decision to deploy full-page intrusive advertising into Firefox makes it 100% certain I will never buy the Mozilla VPN service--because, how can I trust that they won't do the equivalent to that service? What's to stop them from blocking certain sites (on the other side of the VPN) as part of some promotion? Or worse? They…
I see what you're saying but.. it's one popup. Maybe you can't, but I can live with that.
Correct. There’s a bit of entitlement here by some.
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
For myself as possible VPN end user I don't see the value proposition, but presumably, Mozilla is treating this as a new source of revenue (they get some percentage of the total monthly recurring or a one time sign up commmission or something from Mullvad?) as a way to be very slightly less dependent on Google for most of their incoming revenue stream. I can see ordinary non technical users who want to "buy a VPN ser…
The only thing that makes me choose it over Mullvad is how well the integration with Multi-Container in Firefox. It is a first class citizen compared with VPN profiles support for others.
I looked this up and it looks very cool! Why aren't they advertising this better?
I now want this for mullvad too tbh
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/protect-your-container-...
Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I read a conspiracy that Google has paid off Mozilla management to specifically sabotage the browser development. Actions like this make it hard to dispute the moves that frequently seem deliberately anti-user. IIRC, didn't Mozilla lay off some R&D team that was doing some promising work on modernizing and improving its browser engine?
That "promising work" was "inventing the Rust programming language," and, yes.
I think parent is refering to the servo team.