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Re: ChatGPT app for iOS

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Post by hedora »

danielrhodes wrote: post #204
hedora wrote: post #195

So, does this run on iOS, or is it a wrapper of some privacy invading cloud thing? It says it syncs between devices. Is it E2E sync, which is kind of table-stakes for the iOS ecosystem at this point?

What does E2E sync mean here? They already know what you wrote because you submitted it to them, similar to a Google search.

Oh, so it's still a cloud thing. Quaint. :-)

I wasn't sure, since people are complaining that it makes their phones hot, and it's only a matter of time before this stuff runs locally.

I guess that answers my question, though.

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Post by personjerry »

jameshart wrote: post #200
oefrha wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing "fake" about those apps at least upon surface level investigation: OpenAI sold access to the ChatGPT and GPT-4 API, so opportunistic people made chat apps "powered by" ChatGPT and GPT-4. They would be "fake" if they claim to be made by OpenAI, which they don't. So, on what ground do you suggest they should be blocked from submission? Slapping a custom UI on a third party API is fine, if a bit distaste…

Here’s an interesting real-time shift in language happening. You just referred to these things as ‘chat apps’. And that seems reasonable - they use a chat interface. But they aren’t ‘chat apps’ as we would have understood them a few months ago. They don’t let you chat with people. They let you chat with an LLM. Is the word ‘chat’ changing its meaning?

The term "chatbot" has been around for a while so it's not really new to "chat" with a bot rather than a human

Re: ChatGPT app for iOS

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Post by blueberrychpstx »

ramraj07 wrote: post #169
blueberrychpstx wrote: post #111

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I had chat.openai.com saved to my homepage so here's my finding so far: - snappier - search through conversation history via title search - whisper built in for record -> transcribe workflow (does not work "live" unfortunately) - easier to scroll through history and delete history - long press prompt or response to copy/select text or perform voting/regeneration actions - better text resizing support (via the control…

No tts tho. I’d rather have a conversation.

That'd be nice for sure.

Re: ChatGPT app for iOS

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Post by yreg »

drewda wrote: post #163

> P.S. Android users, you're next! ChatGPT will be coming to your devices soon. I'm getting a good chuckle out of this. The thought-leaders have been warning us that large language models will put 99% of professionals out of work and will threaten the nature of human existence... and yet today's leading LLM apparently can't be used to generate code for a boilerplate user interface using the Android SDK.

Yes, because the (((thought-leaders))) have been saying that OpenAI will let GPT to write all of their software from now on. And if they won't then that means LLMs are incapable. /s

Also, there are reasons to not launch on both platforms at once even if the binaries were ready. E.g. if you want to space out onboarding new users. They are launching only in the US afterall.

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Post by crazygringo »

ricardobayes wrote: post #185
calderwoodra wrote: post #131

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Exactly this, it takes a few days before the app will be indexed.

I wonder what on earth takes a few days, this is not a DNS record...

I wouldn't be surprised if it's tuned based on what people tap after a query, popularity stats generally, or other similar stats, and so they rebuild it only every few days after accumulating more stats.

Establishing popularity at a point in time requires a window of time.

If I had to guess, they pick a window of a few days because if you did it every minute or even every hour, there might be wild fluctuation in the long tail of apps, depending on whether 8 or 0 people happened to download it in that time.

You could fix this by making window size inversely proportional to short-term popularity and running every 15 min, but that's just more effort to reason about and code and debug. It seems like something they absolutely should do, but I can see why it would be pushed down the backlog.

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Post by furyofantares »

hedora wrote: post #211
danielrhodes wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does E2E sync mean here? They already know what you wrote because you submitted it to them, similar to a Google search.

Oh, so it's still a cloud thing. Quaint. :-) I wasn't sure, since people are complaining that it makes their phones hot, and it's only a matter of time before this stuff runs locally. I guess that answers my question, though.

It's mostly odd that you called ChatGPT "some privacy invading cloud thing"

Re: ChatGPT app for iOS

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Post by lukaesch »

pmuk wrote: post #112
NikolaNovak wrote: post #93

I clicked on the link on my PC. Noted the name of the app ("Openai ChatGP") and the description ("The official app by OpenAI") I opened App Store on my iPhone and typed the name of the app, verbatim . The official/correct app was not in the first 20 entries (which is as far as I was willing to scroll). Which, to me: 1. Shows why an official app is needed even though the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone and…

Are you outside the US? I got the same results, but then realised it's only available in the US at the moment.

Only available in the US right now

Re: ChatGPT app for iOS

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Post by merpnderp »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #93

I clicked on the link on my PC. Noted the name of the app ("Openai ChatGP") and the description ("The official app by OpenAI") I opened App Store on my iPhone and typed the name of the app, verbatim . The official/correct app was not in the first 20 entries (which is as far as I was willing to scroll). Which, to me: 1. Shows why an official app is needed even though the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone and…

I had to open the link in my browser, then use the Safari tab sharing thing to open that same page on my phone, which then opened it in the store to the correct app, because I ran into the exact same problem.

Apple store search is a broken horrific joke.

Re: ChatGPT app for iOS

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Post by startupsfail »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #207
startupsfail wrote: post #87

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Interesting, yes, that make sense, there should be resellers. It is not clear how much of that money ended up going to Apple and paying for the OpenAI API access. Is Apple going to get their cut from the paying customers of OpenAI, by the way?

no. and you won’t be able to start paying from inside the app.

It seems rather unwise of Apple to invite that OpenAI/Plugin marketplace without some kind of an agreement.

No plugins right now in the App, but they’ll be coming, no?

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