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Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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Reading the title I thought you meant the opposite. Aka, an ai.txt file that disallow ai to train or use your data similar to robots.txt (but for cases when you still want to be crawled, just not extrapolated)

I guess the good part that in ai.txt you can talk to AI. So if you want you can tell it to not crawl or make other agreements with it, just in plain english. What a time to be alive.

Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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I think they nailed it with the original 1790 act. 14 years + 14 more is plenty.

Same. The very nature of information is that it yearns to be free. Information cannot be "owned." The point of copyright should be to grant temporary monopolies to encourage creation, not to confer ownership. Thomas Jefferson put it beautifully: If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclus…

Not merely the point of copyright, but also the basis for copyright in the USA.

Specifically all forms of intellectual property in the USA trace back to Article I Section 8, Clause 8 of the Constitution. Which gives Congress the power, "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries".

Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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security.txt https://github.com/securitytxt/security-txt : > security.txt provides a way for websites to define security policies. The security.txt file sets clear guidelines for security researchers on how to report security issues. security.txt is the equivalent of robots.txt, but for security issues. Carbon.txt: https://github.com/thegreenwebfoundation/carbon.txt : > A proposed convention for website owners and di…

Having a security.txt doesn't stop security researchers asking "Do you have a bounty program?". We replied dozens already that such a file exist, it's not well enough known yet. On the other hand there are search engines crawling those and creating reports, which is nice.

JSON-LD or RDFa (RDF in HTML attributes) in at least the /index.html the HTML footer should be sufficient to indicate that there is structured linked data metadata for crawlers that then don't need an HTTP request to a .well-known URL /.well-known/ai_security_reproducibility_carbon.txt.jsonld.json

OSV is a new format for reporting security vulnerabilities like CVEs and an HTTP API for looking up CVEs from software component name and version. https://github.com/ossf/osv-schema

A number of tools integrate with OSV-schema data hosted by osv.dev: https://github.com/google/osv.dev#third-party-tools-and-inte... :

> We provide a Go based tool that will scan your dependencies, and check them against the OSV database for known vulnerabilities via the OSV API.

> Currently it is able to scan various lockfiles [ repo2docker REES config files like and requirements.txt, Pipfile lock, environment.yml, or a custom Dockerfile, ], debian docker containers, SPDX and CycloneDB SBOMs, and git repositories.

Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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Using robots.txt as a model for anything doesn't work. All a robots.txt is is a polite request to please follow the rules in it, there is no "legal" agreement to follow those rules, only a moral imperative. Robots.txt has failed as a system, if it hadn't we wouldn't have captchas or Cloudflare. In the age of AI we need to better understand where copyright applies to it, and potentially need reform of copyright to ali…

robots.txt is a successful coordination mechanism between website operators and crawlers. It is not in any way a security mechanism meant to address adversarial situations, as you seem to make it out to be.

Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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and also opengraph meta tags https://ogp.me/

And also schema.org: https://schema.org/

Thing > CreativeWork > WebSite https://schema.org/WebSite ... scroll down to "Examples" and click the "JSON-LD" and/or "RDFa" tabs. (And if there isn't an example then go to the schema.org/ URL of a superClassOf (rdfs:subClassOf) of the rdfs:Class or rdfs:Property; there are many markup examples for CreativeWork and subtypes).

httpS://schema.org/license

Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35891631

extruct is one way to parse linked data from HTML pages: https://github.com/scrapinghub/extruct

Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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How do I add a semantic definition in an HTML tag to a JPEG, or MP4, or WAV, or any non HTML format? HTML tags fix HTML, not other formats.

JPEG has EXIF, MP3 has ID3 tags, MP4 has ilst, MKV has Tags, etc. We don't need xkcd/927 for these other formats that already have standard metadata mechanisms.

Yeah, and if you make it that complex to extract consent you won't get any. Think one step ahead maybe. One switch, one thing to parse.

Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”

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> Reducing copyright term extension has everything to do with restoring competition and creativity to our economy Can you explain your line of thinking here? How does the ability to use another company’s intellectual property restore creativity? It just seems like a path to allow bootlegging.

Glad you asked! So copyright is a limited, temporary monopoly on a work. You create a work, the law grants you the exclusive rights to that work, for a time. Because of this monopoly the vast majority of the benefit from that work accrues to you, including financially. (All pretty fair in my opinion, you did the work, you deserve the reward!) If let's say Star Wars falls out of copyright tomorrow, economically that h…

> If let's say Star Wars falls out of copyright tomorrow, economically that has two effects. One, Disney loses a ton of future revenue. Two, countless Disney other people create derivatives of Star Wars, and they make money from those. Competition is increased.

Three, the derivatives are made and Disney starts marketing "Disney's Star Wars" which continue to be the high-demand (and high-value) versions. The situation is unchanged.

For example, you can currently buy The Little Mermaid in non-Disney form[1], but Disney's version is what most people want.

[1] - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=little+mermaid+Hans+Christian+And...

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