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I know people who have done this, not having any information to know otherwise.
I wonder if this leads to less alcohol use in the future.
LSD: Not Even Once
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#212I’ve noticed a troubling trend among psychonauts: any reports of terrible experiences or long lasting negative effects of psychedelics are waved away in two different ways: 1 - blaming of the person who had the experience, for not having the proper “set and setting”, or not respecting the drug. 2 - claiming that there’s no such thing as a “bad trip”, and only a challenging one that takes time to integrate. There migh…
I think it's an overreaction to fear mongering stories about psychedelics that are much less common now than a decade or two ago. But it would be crazy to dismiss the danger in taking psychedelics or to bill them as being suitable for everyone, I agree. An underground and recreational drug culture is prone to dismissing risk and ill equipped to create safe and supportive environments, or to respond to medical/psychol…
I'm the living counter example. I've experienced it multiple times in settings that would be very closed to ideal for psy-heads, hence one random day, something very similar to what's described in this article happened. Took me about a decade to recover.
I was very close friends with lots of people in the psychedelic harm reduction associations and had a lot of theoritical and practical knowledge...
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#213I've had strongly pronounced visual snow since I was a little kid.. Remember asking my parents "what is the thing you see when you close your eyes?" They were confused, "black?" yeah, but.. I know the color back, like, a piece of black paper on the table in a well-lit room, I understand that it's this near ideal smooth surface that reflect very little light of no particular color.. But the thing when you've been in b…
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#214Had a similar experience, but with the much more tame marijuana. It was a 6-hour long panic attack for me. Similar to the author of this, I read for years of how "the only way it could ever harm you is if you were crushed by 100 lbs of it" on sites like Reddit. It wasn't until after getting high that I heard about marijuana amplifying stress tendencies in a minority of people. I've always been high strung, and maybe…
> I've always been high strung, and maybe my experience reveals something that needs fixing inside of me, but given how marijuana turned my anxiety up to a measure that has only ever been matched by an actual panic attack, I'll avoid LSD (and anything similar like shrooms) like it's a loaded gun pointed right at me.
I'm the same way, perhaps to a lesser degree. My sister more so.
Part of me thinks I need to get really high more often and explore myself, but there's a chance I'm just chasing shadows and another approach is needed.
Lots of people have an "always sober" policy and they do fine. Or are they square?
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#215It occurs to me that many people don’t actually test their drugs, and that it’s easy to get research chemicals with LSD-like effects. With MDMA often what you get is either partially or fully methamphetamine. So you have to test what you’re getting before you take it and there’s a culture of testing everything and not taking random pills from people. I wonder if any of these bad trips are from lsd-analogues sold as lsd.
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Psychedelic trips with mushrooms and with LSD are very similar, often you wouldn’t be able to tell them apart. When there are visuals I find them to be more "organic" on mushrooms and more "sharp/electric" on LSD, but that’s very subjective/suggestible. But there are "social" trips where there are no visuals, usually when in a group and experiencing the substance together, there I wouldn’t be able to tell LSD and Psy…
> Psychedelic trips with mushrooms and with LSD are very similar, often you wouldn’t be able to tell them apart. Having done both about a dozen times, this is not my experience or the experience that others have shared. Even a large dose of mushrooms only has subtle visual effects, while LSD makes the world look like a van Gogh painting.
I only had strong visuals with high doses of LSD, with a normal tab it’s usually more subtle for me, in a similar way as mushrooms.
But visuals as strong as you describe I had only when I tried 25C-NBOMe. But there the mind trip was only barely present and the body feel was rather uncomfortable.
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#217I had some weird experiences after smoking weed in high school, probably 15 or 16, where repeating patterns I observed while moving would sort of make my vision glitch so that they seemed to be still. It was like if you watch a car in a movie/commercial the tires will appear to be moving backwards or standing still as it’s driving. This happened while I was mowing the lawn with the blades of grass, waking down the hallway of my school with the lockers, and once while I was driving at night with the lines of the road, which kind of freaked me out since I still felt myself moving but my vision made it feel like I wasn’t. I feel that I had seen this happen when I was high and it had triggered this pattern recognition in my sober state as well. However I have never had these kind of visual phenomena happen with weed I have purchased after legalization. I’m not sure if I got something laced or could just handle smoking a lot more weed back then. I had also taken some dissociatives and psychedelics around then as well, so maybe some effect enhanced by them.
I did try mushrooms when I had just turned 16 and it really brought a storm of existential questions to the forefront of my mind that were very difficult to sift through with everything I had going on as a teenager. I developed a somewhat unfounded fear of tripping randomly and losing control of my ability to distinguish reality that greatly frightened me. At times I would be susceptible to this thinking, having read about HPPD, and any visual disturbance might lead me to feel tremendous anxiety again that I might be tripping or worse going crazy. One notable occasion I was driving at night and noticed halos around every light. I thought I must be going mad, but nope, it turned out I just needed glasses. Not to minimize the anxiety I felt at the time, but reading too much into some of these things can really make it worse. I never randomly started tripping at any time and my grasp on reality was only made worse by the anxiety at the thought of it potentially happening.
Many years since then and feeling I have a much firmer grasp on reality, I just think “my eyes must be playing tricks on me” and bring it up with my optometrist if I see anything weird.
However, I do feel for the author having recently gone through a lot of health anxiety after the sudden death of my cat. I did get to the point where I couldn’t drive across town and a sip of caffeine would send me spinning. I guess a lot of things in life can affect you this way if you’re not ready for them is all I’m trying to say, especially if you’re already anxiety prone.
Be careful with psychedelics if you have anxiety!
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#218I once got high with weed for about a week. I was kinda depersonalized, my time perception was off, and I was not truly feeling things when I was touching them for about a week or so. And there was barely any info about this on the internet. None of my friends had ever experienced it, their high only lasted a couple of hours at max.
After a couple of days of being in that state, I got really fearful thinking I might be stuck with it forever, that I had damaged my brain permanently, but thankfully I got off of it after a week. I promised myself I would basically be a good boy from now. I got a newfound respect for this normal state of consciousness and I became super grateful for just getting out of that nightmare. I would not wish what happened on my worst enemy.
Even though I've heard MDMA can do wonders for some of the mental issues I have, I am basically never gonna touch it.
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#219This is anecdotal, but not everyone reacts the same way to drugs (any drugs).
I only tried pot a few times and it makes me feel miserable. It's funny for about 5 minutes, after that I feel like shit. Sometimes even nauseated, I never had the munchies, I don't know what they feel like.
A few years ago I was in a bad bike crash, and it was the first time I had opioids (they tried fentanyl and tramadol).
I asked the doctors to just take them away, the pain of a hip and ankle fracture was way better than the feeling of the opioids.
There's definitely something different about how my brain deals with some of these drugs which makes me think that for me, it would be a really bad idea to try anything else, even in a controlled environment.
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#220Had a similar experience, but with the much more tame marijuana. It was a 6-hour long panic attack for me. Similar to the author of this, I read for years of how "the only way it could ever harm you is if you were crushed by 100 lbs of it" on sites like Reddit. It wasn't until after getting high that I heard about marijuana amplifying stress tendencies in a minority of people. I've always been high strung, and maybe…
When folks say that marijuana's a safe drug, it's purely in reference to the fact that it wont kill you. 100 shots of tequila in an hour will cause death; 100 tokes of marijuana will not. The problem this results in is an interesting one: marijuana growers are constantly increasing the per gram density of THC/cannabinoids in their plants. The consequence of this is that today's marijuana, compared to that of the '70s…
This is one area where I think legalization has helped. In my state, I can now get an inhaler using the same basic tech as asthma inhalers, and it can fairly precisely dose 2.5mg of THC per activation. Added benefit, completely smokeless. Even vape pens cause me to cough pretty bad (let alone actual smoking), so it's a huge upgrade to the experience.