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Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Use a VPN connection to the UK when you verify... BOOM solved

Using a VPN is one of the easiest way to get rejected. Most automated systems flag stuff coming from them as highly suspicious due to the sheer amount of crap coming through them.

You can run your own from a vps and an ssh socks proxy.

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I’m also thinking about buying a second hand server and racking it in a colocation joint just so I can physically get the disk. The client data I have is super important, and there is some level of comfort you only get from bare metal.

I would go further and have a small server/NAS running locally in an office. The best backup is one you sit on the top off.

I literally have a Linux machine that I’m ready to rig up were it not for Comcast being my internet provider. Maddening to live in “Silicon Valley” and be dealing with dog shit data caps and speeds.

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Hetzner also has cloud servers and an API to provision them. There is even a terraform module for hetzner cloud. It works very well. But they don’t provide any managed services, like databases or blob storage.

Yup, reason why we stay in AWS

Scaleway and OVH are two other European companies who provide things like managed databases and blob storage, in addition to very competitively priced dedicated hardware and services.

One thing I personally like with OVH is that they have fixed prices for things like bandwidth, not pay-per-GB like most others.

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I implemented a Virtual Private Cloud (VPC) on AWS with Elastic Container Service (ECS) using Terraform so that I could run Docker, and it ended up being about 2 orders of magnitude more expensive than Hetzner after all of the services were configured. For example, something as simple as AWS NAT Gateway costs $30 per month, and it can be challenging to get everything right if you don't use one. I haven't tried Heroku…

I don’t know that this is terribly off base.

The cloud almost always ends up costing a lot more at scale and increasingly at the beginning.

In some part this is because the cloud is someone else’s computers that you have to help pay for.

The current incarnation of cloud was designed in part to work around scaling issues with Linux networking, which have long since been solved. What a $5 Linode/VPS can do today vs 10 years ago is much different from a linux standpoint alone before additional horsepower.

At the same time tooling to host (docker, ansible, terraform) is making traditional devops heavier at times.

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Minecraft is inherently single threaded. the success of running big servers is to run it on the fastest single core processor money can buy.

This wisdom is a bit outdated, especially on heavily modded servers. Minecraft is limited by a single thread, but some stuff does run on other threads. In addition the JDK will do compilation and GC on other threads now, which is especially apparent if you run GraalVM like you should. Minecraft wont scale to 16 cores. But if you buy a 2C/4T instance, you are going to get less performance than you would get on a wider…

> Minecraft is limited by a single thread, but some stuff does run on other threads

Hmm, not so outdated. if you’re talking about JVM gc then sure but pretty much everything is built around a single thread ticking the mod. I know some mods can do chunk pregen on another thread but those are rarely used.

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Never figured out how to use Hertzner. Wanted to try since they get such a good reputation on here, but they banned my account when their system presented no way for me to verify my identity. The required either PayPal or passport. I have no PayPal account, and their 3rd party verification system only allows passport from your country of residence (signup requires providing a contact address and they pre fill using t…

> Never figured out how to use Hertzner. Wanted to try since they get such a good reputation on here, but they banned my account when their system presented no way for me to verify my identity.

I ran into the same thing as well, maybe my real name sounds a bit funny to their system? It was very discouraging to move forward after being instantly banned. I reached out to them how I could verify and the only way was sending them an unencrypted mail with my Passport copy. Upon request they suggested I could simply send them a fax.

Note, this has been some years ago and I've never gave Hetzner a new try. As long as I can see from professional experience, you will have a lot of back and forth with Hetzner support, which becomes quite bad the moment your team is international because they'll always manage to sneak in some sort of German text. It really feels antiquated having to go through support for basic server hardware debugging. Eventually they'll often resort to replacing your instance.

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I implemented a Virtual Private Cloud (VPC) on AWS with Elastic Container Service (ECS) using Terraform so that I could run Docker, and it ended up being about 2 orders of magnitude more expensive than Hetzner after all of the services were configured. For example, something as simple as AWS NAT Gateway costs $30 per month, and it can be challenging to get everything right if you don't use one. I haven't tried Heroku…

Isn’t this entire site run off a laptop in someone’s shed?

And yet it’s got basically perfect uptime. Whereas the impenetrable cloud goes down every week and costs billions a year.

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post #173

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I’m also thinking about buying a second hand server and racking it in a colocation joint just so I can physically get the disk. The client data I have is super important, and there is some level of comfort you only get from bare metal.

I would go further and have a small server/NAS running locally in an office. The best backup is one you sit on the top off.

This does not pay out in Germany due to the high energy costs in private house holds or office spaces.

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post #38

Never figured out how to use Hertzner. Wanted to try since they get such a good reputation on here, but they banned my account when their system presented no way for me to verify my identity. The required either PayPal or passport. I have no PayPal account, and their 3rd party verification system only allows passport from your country of residence (signup requires providing a contact address and they pre fill using t…

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Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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I implemented a Virtual Private Cloud (VPC) on AWS with Elastic Container Service (ECS) using Terraform so that I could run Docker, and it ended up being about 2 orders of magnitude more expensive than Hetzner after all of the services were configured. For example, something as simple as AWS NAT Gateway costs $30 per month, and it can be challenging to get everything right if you don't use one. I haven't tried Heroku…

Cloud is about elasticity. At ${work} we spin up a ton of EC2 instances in anticipation of huge traffic spikes that happen predictably several times a day, in different regions, and spin them down afterwards.

It's also about simplicity. Many services come pre-configured on.AWS, with clustering, failover, backups, etc already present.

When you are small, you can sysadmin your server fine, and you don't yet need the cloud.

When you are colossal, you want everything custom, and the cloud would cost you a huge amount, so you go for your own servers (and possibly datacenters).

But for the midrange, the expense of hiring several more SREs to handle dedicated servers is usually higher than the entire AWS bill, and the cloud looks very reasonable.

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