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Post by leobg »

ctvo wrote: post #128
leobg wrote: post #81

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Even if that were true, what would you gain from that? If it makes you feel better that Elon Musk (or anyone else) failed at something, you may want to re-evaluate your life's loss function.

> If it makes you feel better that Elon Musk (or anyone else) failed at something, you may want to re-evaluate your life's loss function. Unfortunately I haven't reached that level of enlightenment yet. I root for Elon to fail in the same ways I root for Donald Trump to fail. He's destructive, self-serving, thinks he's above the law, and hasn't faced real consequences for his actions. I'm rooting for him to fail beca…

Sure. If I had never heard of Elon, and suddenly saw his name everywhere, and bros who cheer and justify him and feel like they’re the chosen people… and Tesla this and Twitter that... I'd be turned off as well, call him a nuisance, and steer clear of anything that has to do with him. And yeah, maybe I’d even try to level the scales, so to speak, by publicly speaking against him simply because I couldn’t bear the hype.

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Post by yoran »

rosywoozlechan wrote: post #203
m_ke wrote: post #58

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They raised a ton of money on a high valuation, spent 25mil to make 1 mil last year and are now scrambling to raise a new crowd sourced round because they don't want to get wiped out in a down round. This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model and I'm guessing they think they have "influencers" on their platform to bring in a decent audience.

What did they spend their $25 million on? What's the tech they have that costs this much to build? Their hard problems are a building a CMS or are otherwise solved by using fastly and sendgrid?

For most startups that raise money, tech is hardly a big cost. Most of the money goes towards fueling growth through paid marketing and so on.

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

emptysongglass wrote: post #182
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #150

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I follow mostly techies, very few went to mastodon, and among them were none of the ones I cared about. Seems like the people doing the most things in my field have no time for drama and are busy doing stuff, while the ones that actually accomplish little have the time and energy for this.

Counterpoint: most of the Cloud Native crowd I follow moved to Hachyderm. > Seems like the people doing the most things in my field have no time for drama and are busy doing stuff, Standing up for ethics isn't performative drama. I made my exit very quietly because I didn't have time for the drama of a petulant tyrant. I care that the tech I consume is open source or at the very least is guided by some principal of a…

Sure.

People spent months and a tremendous amount of energy discussing the state of a site that is a glorified animated wall of text, but it's not drama.

Sometimes I wish I could teleport this community to were I lived in Mali and force you to stay there for 6 months to re-calibrate your sense of what's important.

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Post by rosywoozlechan »

DanHulton wrote: post #204

...and his actions. He's not just a nebulous political creature, thinking thoughts but not acting upon them. He's actually _doing_ things that people might rightly not agree with. Not to mention, a good chunk of those actual actions have resulted in Twitter being a legitimately worse place for a great number of people to spend time on/engage with, and thus they... leave.

Whenever someone criticizes Elon Musk I just remember he sent a car he drove, a car built by a company he leads, into heliocentric orbit using his own rockets via his own space launching tech company. I don't know how you can talk about the guy without that context. People talk about him like he's just another jerk on Twitter. His car is in space. He's also the wealthiest person on the planet. And his car is in space.

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Post by jacquesm »

kritiko wrote: post #208
jacquesm wrote: post #185

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> they totally ripped off the Twitter UI I wasn't aware of any IP protection of Twitter's UI, which in one form or another has been done 100's of times.

I didn't claim there was IP infringement. IG & lots of other companies stole the stories format from Snap. Makes it easier for users who recognize the ui, but it's still got to be galling.

Why? It's just a UI for something where there aren't many alternative ways to present it. Timeline, follower, following. That's it. The rest is styling and that is even less relevant.

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Post by lovvtide »

cmh89 wrote: post #61
7h3rAm wrote: post #38

Social network must be a protocol, not a platform. That's the only way to gurantee free speech and cencorship resistance. Nostr[1] is proving to be a good first step in this direction. [1] https://nostr.how/

There isn't a huge amount of demand for 'censorship resistance' and 'free speech' in social networks. People want enjoyable communities far more than they want the 'freedom' to spam the n-word.

On the contrary, I think there is a huge demand. I can find enjoyable community offline. Speaking for myself, freedom from censorship is in fact the main thing I want in a social network. Your values might differ.

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Post by AlbertCory »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #157
AlbertCory wrote: post #75

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Elon showing the number of impressions a tweet or reply actually got was an eye-opener for me. Probably about 1-2% of "Followers" -- not just mine but most people's. Twitter has been completely worthless anyway for promoting my Substack channel. In their Dashboard, it doesn't even show up in the top five referers.

Same. Most of my readers come from HN, reddit or substack itself. Now it's mostly Python so it makes sense a tech oriented medias will be reading more about it. Still, the ban on substack by twitter means that, while a #python tweet gets some view, the same with an article to substack tanks bit time.

I'm curious how you're dealing with Reddit: some of the mods don't even respond to a direct message; they just say "read the guidelines." And then their auto-mod deletes your post.

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Post by jjulius »

kritiko wrote: post #208
jacquesm wrote: post #185

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> they totally ripped off the Twitter UI I wasn't aware of any IP protection of Twitter's UI, which in one form or another has been done 100's of times.

I didn't claim there was IP infringement. IG & lots of other companies stole the stories format from Snap. Makes it easier for users who recognize the ui, but it's still got to be galling.

>IG & lots of other companies stole the stores from Snap.

I've been saying it since Twitter launched, but Twitter was/is just some folks stealing Facebook's status update.

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Post by waboremo »

czbond wrote: post #175
jpmattia wrote: post #115

It wasn't like Twitter's business had a large technical barrier-to-entry. And Musk seems to be pissing away his non-technical barrier-to-entry just about as hard as he can. Good luck to Substack on eating twitter's lunch! Edit: That said, I've found mastodon (@jpmattia@mastodon.mit.edu) to be a much more pleasant interaction compared to twitter, so I'm curious what the landscape looks like in a couple of years.

Twitter's barrier wasn't that it was technically hard - it was that it was free and had critical mass. There still isn't much of a reason to move away from it, except for those who want to signal their disdain for Musk's political views

Musk is the least of my concerns, I can ignore his account if I cared that much. I can't really ignore that a lot of higher quality accounts have been interacting less because Twitter has become a technical mess, fucking up their timelines and notifications. This sort of loss is quiet, and slow. You only really notice it when it's too late, when your feed is nothing but mindless ads and random accounts you never followed shilling the latest thing on amazon.

The only reason most larger accounts are still "active" is because nobody wants to have to rebuild elsewhere without strong commitment from platform owners - and outside of Tumblr, nobody has really done that. Except maybe now with Substack, we'll see.

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