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You could almost certainly pay to host non-open source projects on Codeberg. It happens to be that the price is unlisted, though (and it's probably higher than what you or anyone else would want to spend, anyway).
I pay $20 a year to develop private projects on source hut with CI and everything else included.
Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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"Publicly available" is different from "licensed under a FOSS license". Anyone other than the original author doesn't have the right to distribute, modify or even execute the code. Even if the code is licensed under an open source license, in most cases it requires users to attribute the original author, while in some cases derivative work must be licensed under the same license too. GitHub Copilot use the code witho…
You grant GitHub a license to display your code, same for Codeberg, they're not bound by your license because you're granting them specific rights. Secondly can you prove damages when a person uses your code but doesn't attribute you? If you can't your license isn't very useful. This is what we all need to understand.
GitHub doesn't pohobit mirroring repos/developing a fork from someone else's codebases.
The original author didn't grant GitHub a license to use their code, but their code may be used for training the model.
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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I read the Copilot terms, they only use public repos for AI training. Private repos are not used for training. I've since privated all of my non-forked repos.
But maybe some of us want to share our work publicly, but still not have GitHub's proprietary models trained on our code?
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
#214The only field where companies want to run on donations and communism.
> Codeberg e.V. is a registered non-profit association based in Berlin, Germany.
https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/what-is-codeberg/#...
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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> people always like to come out of the woodwork in these discussion throwing around scary terms. There’s no scary terms involved here. Codeberg is a nonprofit foundation with Free software as part of its mission. > non-commercial licenses are exactly like any other open source license, non-commercial and other use-restricted licenses are not Open Source (OSI) or Free Software (FSF) licenses. > people do this for goo…
> There’s no scary terms involved here. Codeberg is a nonprofit foundation with Free software as part of its mission. non-commercial licenses protect free software, just not in the pedantic meaning you are peddling. > non-commercial and other use-restricted licenses are not Open Source (OSI) or Free Software (FSF) licenses. looks like you cropped the rest of that sentence, so here it is again: with that one restricti…
No, they don't. Non-ommercial licenses make software broadly unusable by businessez, they don’t protect it. They typically exist to pritect the creators income from separating selling the aoftware as non-free (in even the gratis sense) for commercial users.
“No selling other software or services whose main component is the licensed software” licenses, which may be what you are thinking of, OTOH, of various forms (which are different than non-commercial licenses) protect the original software vendor from competition in selling their own software and services; they don't protect free (even gratis) software, but, like general non-commercial licenses and other proprietary licenses, thet protect the commercial interests of the software vendor.
> if being OSI or FSF compliant, means that businesses can use my work for free, then no thank you.
Sure, you are absolutely entitled under copyright law to choose a proprietary license that protects your commercial interests. When you do so, however, you aren’t entitled to the services of a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting Free (in the FSF sense) software to support your development and distribution of your non-Free software.
Kind of weird that you are so emphatic about not wanting other people to use your work for free and yet feel so entitled to other people making their work available to you for free even when your use directly opposes the purpose of their work.
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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Are you being sarcastic? If not, GitHub recently updated their search feature and it's pretty good. https://github.com/search/advanced https://docs.github.com/en/search-github/github-code-search/...
I think it was more of a jab at GitHubs laughable search. Somehow, in 2023, GitHubs search is so fucking terrible it fails to find exact string matches in codebases.
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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There should always be a mirror or archive for projects that are used, yeah. It's probably easier to archive stuff when it's centralised to one platform. Collaborating on multiple platforms would make sense if not everyone used GitHub. It's the kind of thing that can be solved on a needed basis. As far as I know the only thing people hate about GitHub is it was proven copilot was stealing code from repos where it ign…
> It's probably easier to archive stuff when it's centralised to one platform. If only all the platforms used the same protocol that allowed you to easily clone code from any of them just by changing the URL. Oh, wait…
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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> It's probably easier to archive stuff when it's centralised to one platform. If only all the platforms used the same protocol that allowed you to easily clone code from any of them just by changing the URL. Oh, wait…
That's true, but you don't get pull request and issues discussions from just a git clone.
Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub
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> There’s no scary terms involved here. Codeberg is a nonprofit foundation with Free software as part of its mission. non-commercial licenses protect free software, just not in the pedantic meaning you are peddling. > non-commercial and other use-restricted licenses are not Open Source (OSI) or Free Software (FSF) licenses. looks like you cropped the rest of that sentence, so here it is again: with that one restricti…
> non-commercial licenses protect free software No, they don't. Non-ommercial licenses make software broadly unusable by businessez, they don’t protect it. They typically exist to pritect the creators income from separating selling the aoftware as non-free (in even the gratis sense) for commercial users. “No selling other software or services whose main component is the licensed software” licenses, which may be what…
people can use my work for free, as long as the use is non-commercial. I wont respond to the rest of the sentence, because its built on an obvious strawman that I have quoted here. Good day!