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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

>Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

Dacia Spring if you live in Europe. Doesn't get any more barebones than that.

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Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

So you trust a for-profit more then an aneedote by a customer of them? I am sure you'd also forcefully vaccinate your loved ones if $authority told you to do so, right?

In my experience, everything bad you can imagine, a for-profit has already done.

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I work in the industry. It's not a "vehicle" any more - it's a "platform" to "engage" with customers, i.e. sell your data and lock features behind ridiculous monthly fees. That is now the mantra of the automotive industry. It really kills any enthusiasm I have for new cars.

> It really kills any enthusiasm I have for new cars. ... and televisions, and phone apps, and solar inverters (with wifi!) and air purifiers (with wifi!) and drones (with wifi to activate) and scooters (to activate), and on and on...

Consumer tech takes a lot of cues from domestic abusers. “I want to know everything about you and who you talk to.” “I will do what I want to you with little notice or recourse.” “You can’t leave me that easily.”

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The car crashing into a kid on a bike I can understand, but why are they reviewing videos innocuous events during random charging sessions?

> The car crashing into a kid on a bike I can understand

I don’t think they were looking because it related to their work. I got the impression that it was quite impressive, and some kind of disaster voyeurism.

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Apple would be the most shocking, given their ingrained company culture of secrecy and compartmentalization.

It would be harder for Apple employees to do too. Have you tried the Mail search? I can’t find things that are definitely there.

That's not unique to Apple. The same is definitely true of GMail.

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Get a German car. Privacy is taken extremely seriously here in Germany. In all walks of life. Companies, schools, doctor‘s offices, etc. Edit: I wouldn’t want to touch a Tesla even if it was gifted to me. Seeing the founder behave the way he does (latest incident: Changing Twitter’s logo to a shitcoins image) makes him extremely unsympathetic to me.

Tesla motors was incorporated/founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning and not Musk

Eberhard sued Musk challenging his right to call himself a founder and the case resolved such that Musk gets to keep calling himself a founder. Musk was a major source of funding early on, putting in about 6 million out of a 7 million dollar raise, served as chairman of the board, headed product design for the Roadster, and took over as CEO before they launched the Roadster. Tesla publicly acknowledges him as a founder.

The founder title is one that a company gives to individuals crucial in the early formation of the company. Musk clearly qualifies.

I'm saying all this because I think it's very lame that Musk critics try to say he's not a founder of Tesla. Hate Musk all you want, just use real criticism and not this sophomoric "he's not a Tesla founder" stuff.

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> Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry What?

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From 7 July 2024 these rules will apply in the EU:

For all road vehicles (i.e. cars, vans, trucks and buses): intelligent speed assistance, reversing detection with camera or sensors, attention warning in case of driver drowsiness or distraction, event data recorders as well as an emergency stop signal;

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_...

Apparently drowsy drivers account for about 100 000 crashes, 71 000 injuries and 1 550 fatalities each year in the US alone, and around 11 600 people died due to drunk drivers in the US in 2020. So to say that nobody was asking for it isn't really true, I think a substantial part of the families to those killed and injured people would prefer if cars contained some kind of obstacle for drunk or tired drivers.

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Sounds like it should be illegal to share data by default, and that individuals shouldn't be able to sign away their expectation of privacy as part of a EULA.

That's called the GDPR. Positive, coercion free, explicit and non-tied consent is a hard requirement. See article 7: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/

Unsurprisingly the average startup bro hates the GDPR, they see it as an obstacle to doing things with data they shouldn't
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