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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

kcb wrote: post #177
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #99

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That was true previous gen, but Intel's efficiency cores make them quite competitive this time around. The 7000 series's advantage is now everything else: IO, the GPU, faster memory and such. I dont even count the 7945HX as a laptop CPU though. That is a $2K+ desktop replacement, complete with the same hot idling the desktop chips have.

I'm still seeing equivalent AMD based laptops with much higher battery life ratings.

No surprise there. Intel turbo'd way too aggressively the last few gens.

But if you schedule most things to the E cores with ProcessLasso/Aniancy, I think you can squeeze much more out of them.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by unethical_ban »

nrp wrote: post #50

I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

Are the AMD processors "U" series or "HS" series? Assuming the latter since they seem to be the ones more available initially.

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Post by nrp »

tzarc wrote: post #118
nrp wrote: post #50

I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

As one of the QMK Firmware maintainers, it's great to see you're going ahead with the customisable side of things even on the input side. Might I suggest engaging with QMK early so that we can avoid the usual manufacturer "hey can you merge this, we've shipped already and forgot to raise the PR until now"?

Absolutely! We’ve been chatting with Jack Humbert, and he’s actually been prototyping an ortholinear keyboard module for the Framework Laptop 16. There are likely some photos of it in press articles about the event today.

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schmorptron wrote: post #185
starkparker wrote: post #133

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Already preordered the 13" AMD board knowing that my old mainboard is going straight into my arcade cabinet as soon as it's out of the laptop.

Did you DIY that arcade cabinet? If so, know of any good guides / did you use one when building it?

Didn't use a guide, it's a bog-standard Arcade1Up conversion. A couple years ago I looked up a display driver board providing an HDMI input to the stock display and bought a $50 Amazon-sourced EG STARTS-brand cheapo kit of sticks and buttons with USB encoders. They were drop-in replacements for the stock deck's buttons and sticks. The emulator driver right now is just a 6th-gen i5 HP EliteDesk Mini fleet-salvaged workstation booting into RetroArch.

These days you can go even easier with fully installed plug-and-play Arcade1Up control panel replacements that are literally drop-in - MDF, sticks, buttons, encoders, and audio/display driver card are all built in. You just pull the stock control deck out, drop the $150 Intec deck in, and connect whatever PC/console/FPGA into the video in and USB controller outputs that it provides. You can build a cab around one out of plywood or just grab a random Arcade1Up on sale somewhere.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

wmf wrote: post #156
tuukkah wrote: post #140

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> which GPU manufacturer they went with The beauty of this is they don't have to choose. The GPU can be anything that communicates over Thunderbolt and fits in the physical module specs.

anything that communicates over Thunderbolt and fits in the physical module specs In other words, only the GPU modules that Framework chooses to make.

We’ve opened the specs specifically to avoid this scenario! The information we have up on GitHub today is enough to get started on module development, and we’ll share any additional information that is useful to enable third party board makers.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by starkparker »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #200
starkparker wrote: post #128

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There was already an official 3D-printable case, and Framework even links to it from the CoolerMaster case's product page. Still good to finally have a straightforward option for the printerless.

I was aware of the The 3D printed case, it is nice but it is a challenging print. I think partnering with Cooler Master will get more Framework mainboards re-used than would otherwise be. I expect when you order a new mainboard it will be an option for checkout :-) We'll see.

> . I expect when you order a new mainboard it will be an option for checkout

It's not yet, but soon, hopefully.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by znpy »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #142
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #91

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Not really. The 7040 series is good, but its not dGPU class like an M1/M2 Max. I think AMD has been scared to make one because OEMs won't want it.

Not OP, but in my case, I'd love an HS part without a dGPU. I'm typing this on a 5650U and its integrated GPU is overkill for what I do. Hell, until a year ago, I used to daily drive an i5-6500 with an HD530 with a 4k display and I never felt limited by the GPU. But I do use the CPU from time to time, so a beefier part would be useful. I would rather not pay for a dGPU which I'd use maybe 1% of the time, and which wo…

i don't play videogames and i don't do ai/ml, video editing or whatever.

i spend most of my time in firefox and in terminals. i do use virtual machines quite a lot to test stuff around, so high cores count and high memory would be a plus for me.

but an nvidia gpu is a deal breaker for me. I just don't want it. I don't need it, i don't use it, it just makes the whole thing less usable. and it draws a lot power that i'd prefer using otherwise.

the intel integrated gpu is not only sufficient for me, i actually WANT it. it just works under gnu/linux and i don't have to mess with drivers.

I cannot stress enough how much i hate having to deal with proprietary drivers.

and last time i played a videogame, it was openarena, and it ran beautifully on the intel hd 600 my work laptop had (dell latitude 7390, great little machine).

edit: regarding amd gpus... i'm not sure. i've been told they work with open source drivers, but still it's a power usage i would happily avoid.

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