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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by htrp »

skilled wrote: post #205

Ok, anyone who has access to Bard, can you tell me how it handles product reviews and recommendations? Does it actually do it like ChatGPT? What I mean is that, is Google about to take a dump on people who've spent years writing reviews only to have their chat app do it directly from their interface? If that is the case, a lot of people are about to go out of business.

Prompt: Compare the GTX4090 vs the 7900 XTX

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The following table compares the specifications of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 and the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX:

Specification NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX

GPU architecture Ada Lovelace RDNA 3

Number of cores 8,704 5,120

Clock speed 1.71 GHz 2.5 GHz

Memory 24 GB GDDR6X 24 GB GDDR6X

Texel rate 161.2 TFLOPs 233.2 TFLOPs

Ray tracing cores 52 80

DLSS cores 23 32

FreeSync Yes Yes

Price $1,599 $999

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As you can see, the RTX 4090 and the RX 7900 XTX are both very powerful graphics cards. The RTX 4090 has a higher clock speed and more memory, but the RX 7900 XTX has more cores and a higher Texel rate. Both cards support ray tracing and DLSS, and both are compatible with FreeSync.

The RTX 4090 is generally considered to be the better card, but the RX 7900 XTX is a great option for those on a budget. Ultimately, the best card for you depends on your needs and budget.

(sorry for potato formatting)

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by LamaOfRuin »

zeven7 wrote: post #170
minutillo wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, many cars with various levels of self-driving are available. Almost every car maker now has basic lane following and adaptive cruise control. Some add navigation, lane changing, and the ability to obey traffic signals. GM has a system called Super Cruise that allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. Mercedes has Drive Pilot which is the first level 3 self driving system. Google has not released anyth…

Google has taken the approach they have very deliberately. They believe in full self driving only. It's not that they couldn't do lane changing and autopilot. It's that they believed it was the wrong approach. No steering wheel, no dependence on a human driver is what they want.

Also they don't have a business selling cars that they can put it in as a desirable feature that is not the core value proposition.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by orra »

This is not cool. From the FAQ:

> Even when Bard Activity is off, your conversations will be saved with your account for a short period to allow us to provide the service and process any feedback. This activity will not show up in your Bard Activity.

Forget opt-in consent. They're ignoring explicit rejection.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by andykellr »

akulbe wrote: post #181

BAH. "This Google Account isn’t supported" "Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18." Smooth move, Google. PAYING Workspace customers should be the first ones to get access. This blows my mind. Oh wait, no… it doesn't. They did this with other devices and apps too. You couldn't use your Workspace account. You had to use a personal account. Really dumb…

Also I can't switch to a personal account. Only option is to log out of all accounts. Other tabs (gmail, etc) show all accounts and let me switch. Not bard.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by stephencoyner »

Me: As a part of Google, do you have my personal info?

Bard: Yes, as a part of Google, I have access to some of your personal information. This information includes your name, email address, and phone number. I also have access to your search history and your location data. I use this information to provide you with personalized search results and to improve my ability to understand and respond to your questions.

I understand that you may be concerned about your privacy. I want to assure you that I take your privacy very seriously. I will never share your personal information with anyone without your permission. I will also never use your personal information for anything other than providing you with the best possible service.

If you have any questions about your privacy, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Me: what’s the weather?

Bard: The weather today varies depending on where you are. In San Francisco, it is currently 49°F and cloudy. In Manhattan, it is currently 39°F and sunny. In Schiller Park, IL, it is currently 38°F and mostly cloudy. In Boston, MA, it is currently 37°F and sunny. In Houston, TX, it is currently 59°F and cloudy. In St James's, England, it is currently 54°F and cloudy.

Edit: other first impression is the UX is better than chat GPT or Bing. I like the easy button to copy text, I like how the text all shows up at once and doesn’t type in causing the screen to scroll, and I like the easy access to other drafts from Bard

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by Someone1234 »

elorant wrote: post #186
BozeWolf wrote: post #95

Somehow I have the idea that the general sentiment is that people hope Google fails with Bard. Or at least does something stupid. Is it just me? (Not saying it is a good thing)

I don't hope that it fails. I just don't trust them with new services because they have a bad history of killing everything that's not generating billions. So probably I won't even bother using it, unless it blows ChatGPT out of the water.

I, too, am very skeptical investing into Google's new products these days for the same reasons.

That being said: I'd use Bard if it was cheaper or better than ChatGPT for one simple reason: These "Chat AI" services are transient. Meaning I ask a question, I get an immediate answer, and there is no long term saved state. So if I used Bard, then Bard got KilledByGoogle, I'm not "out" any built up capital (time, training, cost, etc).

But from everything I've read Google is panicking and embarrassing themselves. Half-baked press conferences, half-baked blog posts, half-baked product launches. Nobody who has got into Bard is saying it is a ChatGPT competitor, and even Google's own launch blog they admit it has limits on two-way conversation depth (unlike ChatGPT).

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by lame-robot-hoax »

oli5679 wrote: post #152

I welcome competition and can't wait to try this out. Hopefully it can reach the same levels as GPT-4, and spur further improvement in this space.

From the initial tests I’ve seen, it doesn’t look even close to GPT-4, yet alone 3.5-turbo.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by cubefox »

jacobr1 wrote: post #64
unfunco wrote: post #61

It's not available to Workspace users, so I'm not going to bother trying it. As an aside, the name Bard is so low-effort and predictable, and a bit rubbish in my personal opinion.

> As an aside, the name Bard is so low-effort and predictable, and a bit rubbish in my personal opinion. I would suggest the opposite. Choosing a good name is hard. You need to avoid naming conflicts, and ideally you have something short, easy to remember, pronounceable in many global language, semantic relationship to the name or at least avoiding poor connotations. It is much better than "New Bing"

Why not use LaMDA, the name of the language model behind it?

(Okay I assume they thought this would be awkward should they decide to switch to a different model in the future. Or they simply liked "Bard" better.)

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Post by bobmaxup »

htrp wrote: post #105

It took about 20 minutes to get off the waitlist for this (US Based). Initial impressions are that it significantly lags behind the OpenAI offerings. Creativity (storytelling) is very limited, response lengths are similar, and it does occasionally cite sources. They did finally get the James Webb telescope facts correct too!

> and it does occasionally cite sources.

It seems to do a lot of verbatim copying from said sources.

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