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Re: SVB Hall of Shame

#211

I’m sorry, this was an utter mess, shouldn’t have happened and lots of people share blame. But I don’t think it was wrong for depositors to pull deposits from an insolvent (or nearly insolvent) bank. Neither is it wrong to encourage companies you’ve invested in to move money. The only thing I have a problem with is when some of the VCs, like Jason Calacanis, deliberately tried to spread panic to other banks to make S…

Agreed.

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

#213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not insolvent, illiquid. Calling SVB insolvent is like calling Elon Musk "poor" because his income this year was $0.

Illiquid to the point that you cannot satisfy your debts is essentially the definition of insolvent.

No, it's not

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

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I’m not going to be using this site to guide my opinions of VCs, I don’t generally outsource that much of my opinion-making to 3rd parties. But it does broadly reflect my opinions, you could get a very rough “general direction” picture of how I think from reading it. “It’s rational to join a bank run, VCs would have been negligent to their companies if they advised to stay” I know! Believe it or not I have studied a…

You're using the word "defect" to describe someone pulling their money from a bank? Seriously? It is so easy to assign blame apparently...

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, I'm starting a new bank and everyone will be able to withdraw all at once, bank runs will be a thing of the past, your interest rate will be 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000125%

Your bank pays you interest on a transaction account?

Mine does. Usually the highest interest rate checking accounts have requirements such as direct deposits and/or linked credit/debit card transactions. But, even the big banks in the US pay more than zero (very slightly more like 0.01-0.05%).

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once the run started then VCs who had not previously had a negative stance on SVB may have done right by their startups, but yeah not the ones who actually started it in the first place.

I have no idea if this is correct or not, but by some accounts, there were noticeable issues with regular transfers which caused the initial concern about the bank. It's not like someone started this out of boredom. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-11/thiel-s-f...

They lost $12 billion on an interest rate bet. The fact they didn't need to mark it to market under an accounting rule didn't mean people ignored it. It was a giant, known problem. It's why they were out trying to raise capital.

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

#218
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Why are you on this website. Honestly. This is literally a website by the people you are criticizing, for the people you are criticizing.

I thought this website was for hackers, not dudes who beg for bailouts from the government and turn around and spend them on bitcoin

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

#219
post #27

Put another way, this is a list of VCs that prioritize their portfolio companies health and success more than their personal banking relationships or public perception. That’s a pretty strong signal to future startups they’ve got your back when the shit hits the fan. I’m not saying it’s good , but I’m betting a lot of founders are feeling pretty thankful. The bailout was never guaranteed.

No. There was only a 1.8 billion dollar temporary hole in the books. If they wanted to they could have plugged this in minutes and ensured their partner in banking survived. Then cashed out with 1:1.01 tbills or whatever in its stead. Follow on benefits would have been a statement of strength and cooperative SV culture.

Instead they panicked like children and told everyone else to panic too

It’s not a good look and it broke trust in SV.

Re: SVB Hall of Shame

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post #61

I don't think I agree with this as a mark of "shame". Were these companies wrong to pull money out of SVB when they (correctly) thought the bank might be insolvent or headed for trouble? Are we celebrating those who left their money in, despite the warnings, when they could have potentially lost it all if the government didn't step in and make an unprecedented promise to honor the deposits? Would that have been "hero…

In a slightly different reality… “Sorry team, our main VC advised us to keep our money in SVB because it’s the right thing to do. We can’t make payroll. Our VC, true to their ideals, kept their cash in SVB too. They can’t help us. Kindly cast your blame on the thousands of startup peers that withdrew and remain unscathed. Their blatant self-interest may have killed us, but we are the true moral victors.”

Or in another

"How was your weekend?"

"Oh nice had a walk with the boys, saw a bald eagle"

We don't know that this would have been a crisis without a sudden 42 billion dollar withdrawal over 24 hours

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