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Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast

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Re: Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast

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Post by maccard »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #174
maccard wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to blame them for every specific bug. It might be incredibly important to you, but not to others, and there's probably another showstopper bug for someone else that isn't important for you in return.

> It might be incredibly important to you, but not to others, and there's probably another showstopper bug for someone else that isn't important for you in return. Yes, but that's not a good thing; IMO they've hit the point where they're dying by papercuts. If one user in a million has a completely awful show stopper bug, the product/business will probably be fine. If one in ten users has a fairly serious bug, they'r…

This is true of every large piece of software though. Pretty much every piece of software I use in anger has absolute showstopper bugs, but the alternative isn't betterm it's different.

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Post by animitronix »

activitypea wrote: post #32

As much as I love the product, I've really come to dislike Gitlab as a company. The constant price hikes and the gutting of the free tier aren't exactly developer-friendly.

Yeah same here. Having to go to an Enterprise level to get free guest users is absurd, they've really stopped listening about product feedback, and the pricing model makes no sense...

Re: Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast

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Post by animitronix »

rwmj wrote: post #84
activitypea wrote: post #32

As much as I love the product, I've really come to dislike Gitlab as a company. The constant price hikes and the gutting of the free tier aren't exactly developer-friendly.

I had a strange interaction with one of their sales people a few weeks ago. We have a free premium open source developer account, plus Red Hat runs all the CentOS infra through gitlab and pays a ton of money to them. I received emails from a salesperson demanding that I book an appointment with them to discuss my account. (It sounded like a meeting which had real this could be done by email energy, or else was going…

They were, we experienced the same. Told them to go pound sand.

Re: Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast

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Post by animitronix »

Here's how you fix gitlab:

* Fire the monetization team (yes this is a thing they have) and most of the sales team to reduce cost and hyperfocus on revenue * Go back to implementing user requests * Fixed the missed up pricing model, including guest accounts * Stop releasing half-baked features like the recent subtask debacle

Hopefully it's not too late.

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Post by intellix »

We were allured to Gitlab as a total offering: code repo, issue and project management, auto devops.

We were developers trying to do everything then we hired project managers who wanted JIRA.

Then we outgrew autodevops and lately it just feels like Gitlab aren't aligned with our requirements at all.

We're paying $19/user/mo for 36 users and just to get status checks for screenshot regression testing we need to upgrade to $99/user/mo?

To get that with github and much more we can pay $24/user/mo.

It's always felt like they're trying to spread themselves too thin and add a billion half features. Like monitoring our GKE cluster from within Gitlab... Why wouldn't I just look at GCP when it's a billion times better and actually works

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Post by hbogert »

jamesfinlayson wrote: post #155
Spivak wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The moat is CI, or more accurately that Gitlab CI is really good and using it requires hosting your code there.

This - I had to move to GitLab from GitHub recently and getting all the tests to run with the new agents was 99% of my time. Pushing a git repo to a new remote is nothing.

That's because current CI platforms are the new lock-in. If you'd go the otherway around it'd cost you the same amount of time. It's a horrible abstraction layer.

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

hbogert wrote: post #216
jamesfinlayson wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This - I had to move to GitLab from GitHub recently and getting all the tests to run with the new agents was 99% of my time. Pushing a git repo to a new remote is nothing.

That's because current CI platforms are the new lock-in. If you'd go the otherway around it'd cost you the same amount of time. It's a horrible abstraction layer.

Yeah I try and keep my stuff to depending on the bare miniumum i.e. bash/Docker/etc (jq and maybe Python) but invariably there is something that needs to change.

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Post by mekster »

paulddraper wrote: post #45
arsome wrote: post #2

Too many things in Gitlab feel half-baked, like their requirements feature which is essentially just their issue tracker, no document management, just toss some issues in the bin. And they expect enterprises to pay for it because they checked the feature box. https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/requirements/

I just think it's too ambitious. Everything and the kitchen sink just will never be as good as best of breed.

Anyone can be ambitious. Without the right skill, it's just a failure.

Re: Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast

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Post by mekster »

gscho wrote: post #9
arsome wrote: post #2

Too many things in Gitlab feel half-baked, like their requirements feature which is essentially just their issue tracker, no document management, just toss some issues in the bin. And they expect enterprises to pay for it because they checked the feature box. https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/requirements/

Even though features are half-baked I still think the future is bright for them, especially if GitHub slips up or gets complacent. Intel showed us that it is possible.

I hate to see GitLab becoming mainstream if GitHub fails. We need a better alternative than a bloated one out of control.

Re: Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast

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Post by nunez »

gregwebs wrote: post #70

Gitlab pricing used to be something like $4/mo and they saw incredible growth. They raised their rates to $19/mo and now are seeing slow growth. In April they are raising to $29/mo- not sure what they think is going to happen. Also, for anyone that actively watches, they have to wonder if there will be another price hike once you are on their platform. Github Enterprise is only $21/mo and for most users it has all th…

GitLab Auto DevOps and (now) GitLab Ultimate are definitely compelling differentiators that Github doesn't currently have, but I can't see Github just _not_ responding to that in a big way.
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