Hey guys, should I know what spyw is? The article doesnt see, to say.
It is in the article : Search Plus Your World. It doesn't explicitly say so though
And what is that?
Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
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Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#212I think this is just mistaken. How is mixing your social circle into your search NOT relevant? Given that people routinely move in tight cliques, whether or not they know it. If all your buddies are into kink, a search for "horse" or "crops" is likely to turn up something rather different from if they are into agriculture, and this is not uncool.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the problem is that people feel forced into agreeing with Google's decisions when they don't, and people don't like being forced into doing something. As an example, say you won't use Google+ because you don't like their account naming policies. That's fine, don't visit plus.google.com, don't use it, and it doesn't exist to you. But when Plus results start appearing in search, a product that you like, you are…
That's nonsense though. Facebook shows up in search results too. I see where you're going with that, but it's invalid.
I'd like to hear what you think.
I like Google+ and SPYW, so I can only speculate. But, since I work for Google, it's important to me to be able to understand what complaints users have about our products.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google is impressing me. Really? All that to get what I used to get for free? Not to mention that German is just one language, and "translated foreign pages" sounds like it might search the translated text, which is nice, unless it doesn't deliver results in untranslated pages, which leaves me wondering whether Google translates all pages or just some, and whether it's sufficiently integrated with Google Translate to…
Wow, I go to some trouble to research your question for you, but you reply in complaint without trying it out. e.g. try it with more than one language selected for search. You can also test your questions with specific queries (e.g. using terms that seem unlikely to be translated). Also, consider that you didn't know what results Google wasn't returning in the first place, years ago (e.g. by not having indexed them).…
To be absolutely clear, I'm complaining about Google, not you, and I already said Google's behavior is better for most users. I'm not really sure what more I can say to be "nice" and still be honest, because I am angry that I was missing search results because of a behind-the-scenes change that I would only have discovered if I was regularly checking my preferences to see if the choices I made have been superseded and contradicted. And that's what I found: when they created this settings page they erased whatever language settings I had (which I think was just "yes, I would like to see languages other than English") and left only English selected.
Honestly, you shouldn't be so sensitive that you perceive criticism of a web app as criticism of your advice, or assume that I didn't check up on it. I just wasn't happy about what I found. Per my first post, all I want is to be able to use Google and understand roughly what it's doing, and it failed very badly in this case, since the one thing I was counting on it to do -- include foreign language pages, because I asked it to -- was actually the thing it wasn't doing.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would argue that journalists shouldn't be making "jumps" at all. Report and critique the facts not what you think they may imply.
I disagree. I can get the "facts" from Twitter or Reddit or HN. What's missing from those streams, however, is a well thought out intellectual discussion about the facts and what they mean from different points of view. The OP is a bit light on discussion, however that doesn't mean they should do no discussion whatsoever.
Did this really warrant downvotes? It's a perfectly reasonable point of view, calmly stated.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#216Yet another "Google is turning evil" article. We've had these regularly since Google went public in 2004.
Yawn.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you google it, it's currently the 3rd and 4th search results. Now, if you google SPYW on Bing then it's nowhere to be found, and that's ultimately why I continue to use Google for search regardless of whatever nonsense they put in the side bar.
I just checked on Bing and it's in the description of the second result, from a Jan 13th article. http://www.bing.com/search?q=SPYW > Jan 13, 2012 · Summary: Google’s Search Plus Your World (SPYW) announcement has ruffled some feathers. Both Facebook and Twitter have reacted ... I've been banging the "Bing needs to do so much better to make even a tiny dent" drum for a while now, but they've made strides in the past…
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12359/bing_spyw.png
I'd never searched anything like this before, and I'm not using the Bing bar or anything. I didn't even try it in Google first (I did try it after, obviously)
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#218I'm not going to discuss the article itself as others have already said what I wanted to say,,
rather let's take a look at the author of the article: Sarah Lacy.
To give you an idea of who Sarah Lacy is, let's check out a video titled: "Mark Zuckerberg Interview with Sarah Lacy at SXSWi"
After you've checked out that, read the article again and you'll see what I'm pointing at; Sarah Lacy is not an unbiased source, rather she's an FB mouthpiece.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#219Spent over 20 minutes to disable all of Google's bullshit personalization of search. I swear to Bob, if they shove one more god damn "feature" into Search i'm gonna make my default engine Yahoo.
How did you disable this "bullshit personalization of search"?
If you google around you can find links to disable Google+, Google Instant, SPYW, etc (the most effective form being deleting your profile and disabling web history, but still retains your main Google account). This way when you're logged in you get the very least amount of bullshit crowding the plain-old search results we used to love.
Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else
#220I would be much more interested at working at the new Page dominated Google than the old Schmidt one. At least he's trying to do what Steve Jobs did so well: make big leaps forward. Apple found it necessary to own more and more pieces of the stack to innovate. Google is finding itself in the same position. Almost all of the best products are restricted/closed/proprietary systems. Macs, OSX, iPhone/iPad, Facebook, Twi…
Google search, Gmail, Facebook and Twitter are built on HTTP, HTML, JavaScript and PHP, which are all free and open source. The Internet would be a bunch of walled gardens if it were built on proprietary technology, and every one of those gardens would be orders of magnitude crappier than the Internet we have today. Apple products are great for the 10%-20% of the population that can afford them, but mostly irrelevant to the vast majority of people.