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Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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I’m just searching the comments for novel use cases where its effective. Most articles I’ve read seem like either moral panics or snake oil. I like how it can generate songs and poems based on a prompt. Its not particularly useful, but it is entertaining. It really does seem curated at times, leading me to think this will eventually become a fad or replaced by a more advanced algorithm.

Want niche use case? I feed chatgpt the whole warstuff one page rule miniature combat system, and I can ask it to generate thematic units. I generated a wide variety of content from LOTR to ships. it even created new trait to complement the existing one when needed by special units, along with explanation of the mechanics of the trait. It doesn't quite understand positioning, but it will simulate round of combat betw…

You’re by far the most interesting person in this thread - I’ve been coding up a Warhammer 40k (symbolic) AI for a while, but I bet chatgpt could blow it out of the water…

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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That reminds me... There is a interestingly relevant japaneese phrase for, to put it nicely, not a bright or sharp person: baka. Supposedly, if I'm remembering last discussion with a japaneese speaker correctly, the same stem is used for "blur", or "blurry" (bokeh, bokeshi). Which is kind of interesting parallel here

I'm not sure this is the case. Wiktionary says baka is [1]: > Probably originally a transcription of Sanskrit मोह (moha, “folly”), used as a slang term among monks. The syllables are different; baka is ば か, bokeh is ぼけ [2]. Could those really be from the same root? [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%A6%AC%E9%B9%BF#Japanese [2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9A%88%E3%81%91#Japanese

I started doubting as well. I'll ask next time around.

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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> Models like ChatGPT aren’t eligible for the Hutter Prize for a variety of reasons, one of which is that they don’t reconstruct the original text precisely—i.e., they don’t perform lossless compression. Small nit: The lossiness is not a problem at all. Entropy coding turns an imperfect, lossy predictor into a lossless data compressor, and the better the predictor, the better the compression ratio. All Hutter Prize c…

Fabrice Bellard has a project that does precisly this. And does it extremely well, apparently. Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27244004 Apparently it leads the compression of enwik9 ( http://www.mattmahoney.net/dc/text.html ) . Not sure why it isn't eligible for the Hutter Prize, there's some speculations in the previous discussion but I don't know whether they're true.

Thank you! Turns out that GPT does in fact perform lossless compression if you want it to, like in this demo.

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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An essay making reasonable points, but overall it strikes me like a dismissal circa 1980 of personal computers as toys. My first day with ChatGPT I tried teaching it my hobby dialect of Lisp (unlikely to be in its training set) and then asking it to implement symbolic differentiation. Its attempt was very scatterbrained, but not completely hopeless. If you don't think that required any thinking from it, I don't want…

I hope I’m not misunderstanding you, but I could be. Are you saying that because the LLM was able to impress you that it must be thinking? (Whatever that means)

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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This is very well written, and probably one of my favorite takes on the whole ChatGPT thing. This sentence in particular: > Indeed, a useful criterion for gauging a large-language model’s quality might be the willingness of a company to use the text that it generates as training material for a new model. It seems obvious that future GPTs should not be trained on the current GPT's output, just as future DALL-Es should…

GPTZero will generate theorem proofs with logical language and use the final contradiction or proof to update its weights. The logical language will be a clever subset of normal language to limit GPT's hallucinations.

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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The most potent use case of the current implementation of ChatGPT is plagiarism. Businesses who need blog posts for content marketing would hire copywriters who would paraphrase my content and publish it as their own. Now they can do it faster and for free. Blogspam got cheaper and more effective. This applies to other kinds of spam too: email spam, forum spam, comment spam... Spam spam spam. I'm afraid that we'll so…

Or less cynically, it's a really good writing assistant. There is a self-service tool that understands English on a level that Grammerly could only dream of. Not sure how to phrase an email in a professional tone, tell GPT to write it and edit from there. This is a tool that is going to be a smash it with non-native speakers or really anyone who just isn't that good with words. > Write an email to a coworker telling…

I wonder what happens when we outsource the burden of proper communication to an AI. It's definitely very useful for language learners like me, but it might end up shaping how people write and speak (with AI training us back with added cultural influence from SV). It might change what we value in communication (with one AI expanding prompts, and another summarising the output with some loss).

It will be a wild ride.

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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There is definitely a misconception about how to use a tool like ChatGPT. If you give it an analytic prompt like "turn this baseball box score into an entertaining outline" it will reliably act as a translator because all of the facts about the game are contained in the prompt. If you give it a synthetic prompt like "give me quotes from the broadcasters" it will reliably acts as a synthesizer because none of the fact…

That's a touch beyond state of the art but we might get there. If there was one big problem w/ today's LLMs it is that the attention window is too short to hold a "complete" document. I can put the headline of an HN submission through BERT and expect BERT to capture it but there is (as of yet) no way to cut up a document up into 512 (BERT) or 4096 (ChatGPT) token slices and then mash those embeddings together to make…

No, this is the current state of the art: https://supabase.com/blog/chatgpt-supabase-docs

  It's built with Supabase/Postgres, and consists of several key parts:
  
  Parsing the Supabase docs into sections.
  Creating embeddings for each section using OpenAI's embeddings API.
  Storing the embeddings in Postgres using the pgvector extension.
  Getting a user's question.
  Query the Postgres database for the most relevant documents related to the question.
  Inject these documents as context for GPT-3 to reference in its answer.
  Streaming the results back to the user in realtime.
The same thing could be done with search engine results and from recent demos it looks like this is the kind of analytic augmentation that MS and OpenAI have added to Bing.

Re: ChatGPT is a blurry JPEG of the web

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An essay making reasonable points, but overall it strikes me like a dismissal circa 1980 of personal computers as toys. My first day with ChatGPT I tried teaching it my hobby dialect of Lisp (unlikely to be in its training set) and then asking it to implement symbolic differentiation. Its attempt was very scatterbrained, but not completely hopeless. If you don't think that required any thinking from it, I don't want…

I hope I’m not misunderstanding you, but I could be. Are you saying that because the LLM was able to impress you that it must be thinking ? (Whatever that means)

Whatever you want to call the problem solving and persona simulation it can do (in this first commercial generation), you'd never accuse a JPEG engine or an MP3 decoder of anything remotely like it. It's just a really backward-looking conceptualization, underemphasizing everything interesting.

You can think of science itself as lossy compression.

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